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re: Full list of the items that are now exempt from Tariffs

Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Who the frick cares if who blinked first or not. Trump is playing these mother frickers like a fiddle. It’s all part of his negotiating skills. Democrats are too fricking stupid to see this.


Man. The Cult gets pissy when their leader shows weakness.

Trump announces massive tax increase on China.

China responds with massive tax increase on Trump.

Trump exempts high tech from China.

Cult: he's negotiating!!!!!!
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2914 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Bumping tariffs to high levels based on some interns frickup, then rescinding most two days later isnt deal making.

Its caving to reality. Reality of modern economics dictates that this will all be a failure unless Trump backs off.

Which he did, and will with the Chinese.

I dont blame him for "deal making" but his tariff rollout wasnt "deal making."


Alright, let’s get technical so you understand what’s actually happening.

The exemptions list is primarily upstream technology components — semiconductors, microprocessors, integrated circuits, computer parts, and networking gear. These are inputs — components used by American companies for domestic manufacturing and assembly.

If you tax these parts, you mostly hurt your own tech sector before you hurt China. U.S. companies like Dell, HP, Apple, Cisco, and even defense contractors need these components to build finished products here. Tariffing them would just raise costs for our own producers and consumers without immediately hurting China.

China makes money in two critical ways:

Volume export of finished consumer electronics and industrial machinery.

Global commodity capture in midstream manufacturing.

The Trump strategy here is surgical:

Leave exemptions on component imports to keep U.S. production running smoothly and avoid self-inflicted inflation.

Target finished goods and China's broader industrial exports, which is where they really make money.

Simultaneously, restrict China’s ability to advance technologically by tightening controls on chip-making equipment, high-end semiconductors, and intellectual property.

Also, remember:
China imports a ton of U.S. ag and raw materials, and our higher tariffs give us leverage to force them to lower their import restrictions or face internal shortages. And let's not ignore: the Chinese yuan is already under pressure, capital outflows are accelerating, and their real estate market is in crisis. This is a compounded squeeze.

So no, this isn’t caving — this is exactly how you apply calculated economic force:
? Keep U.S. supply chains moving.
? Starve China’s end-product profitability and industrial exports.
? Force Beijing to burn reserves and subsidize their producers while we maintain flexibility.

That’s smart trade war economics. If you thought exemptions were weakness, you’re playing checkers in a chess match.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294427 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Alright, let’s get technical so you understand what’s actually happening.


There is no strategy, you folks have created dozens to excuse his impetuous behavior.

Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2914 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Man. The Cult gets pissy when their leader shows weakness.

Trump announces massive tax increase on China.

China responds with massive tax increase on Trump.

Trump exempts high tech from China.

Cult: he's negotiating!!!!!!


The irony of someone in the minority, regurgitating CNN/MSNBC scripts word for word, calling the majority of Americans a 'cult' — it’s almost poetic.

You don’t even understand what you’re defending. It’s not ‘high tech’ being exempted, it’s components — parts that keep our manufacturers alive while we hammer China’s finished goods and exports. But sure, keep repeating your cable news slogans like they’re gospel.

You’re not fighting a cult. You’re just lost without one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294427 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:15 pm to
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egurgitating CNN/MSNBC scripts word for word,


Lets see your link.

Everyone is getting sick of these lies.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2914 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:15 pm to
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There is no strategy, you folks have created dozens to excuse his impetuous behavior.


Translation: you don’t understand the explanation, so you’re pretending it doesn’t exist.

There’s nothing 'impetuous' about keeping our supply chains running while turning the screws on China’s exports. That’s called controlled escalation. You just don’t like that it doesn’t fit your headline narrative.

It’s fine though — when you don’t have an argument, claiming there’s 'no strategy' is the safe space fallback. Keep hiding there.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92894 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:16 pm to
The 4d Chess is amazing by Orange

Cannot wait for Mar A Lago accords
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294427 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:17 pm to
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you don’t understand the explanation,




Which one? Y'all make up a new one hourly it seems.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116651 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:18 pm to
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The Leftist faux men are like little girls with this "Trump blinked" stuff.

Well, the left says that he's trying to get rid of democracy so he can make himself a dictator like Hitler. So, he can't get bogged down with all this tariff stuff.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:19 pm to
Lol. China makes parts for virtually every industry. Including the automobile industry.

And why not make this exemption when he declared the increase on China? Why wait until China increases tariffs on us?

Trump is making this shite up as he goes. He makes a dumb decision, then cooler heads get in his ear when people realize the chaos, and he bends the knee, while declaring victory.

And the Cult is stuck trying to make up excuses to save face.

There's no 4d chess. He's fricking around with the economy, and people don't like it.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
16708 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:28 pm to
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The 4d Chess is amazing by Orange


Let’s see you make a Comprehensive list of what the tariffs “chess” have an accomplished so far.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92894 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Let’s see you make a Comprehensive list of what the tariffs “chess” have an accomplished so far


Boxing in Chyna
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36957 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Leave exemptions on component imports to keep U.S. production running smoothly and avoid self-inflicted inflation.

Target finished goods and China's broader industrial exports, which is where they really make money.
Servers, laptops, desktops, cell phones, tv's,
monitors, and tablets are all exempt.

Did you even read the list before going into spin mode?

quote:

Simultaneously, restrict China’s ability to advance technologically by tightening controls on chip-making equipment, high-end semiconductors, and intellectual property.
Should we just imagine this happening?
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So no, this isn’t caving — this is exactly how you apply calculated economic force:
? Keep U.S. supply chains moving.
? Starve China’s end-product profitability and industrial exports.
? Force Beijing to burn reserves and subsidize their producers while we maintain flexibility.
Kinda sucks that they only did 1 of the 3. While allowing China to compete with those same supply chain manufacturers with less tariffs.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:42 pm to
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There is no strategy, you folks have created dozens to excuse his impetuous behavior


What do you suggest then? Should we get rid of Trump? Honestly what is your solution to everything you dislike?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75355 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:44 pm to
Call it negotiating or whatever you want. I’m not happy that there’s any compromise outside of 0 tariffs on both sides. Either go all in or shut the frick up Trump
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
6829 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:44 pm to
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Is this tarriif battle sorta like when two guys fight, they first make rules not to hit each other in the face?



That’s some gay **** right there. We always met at a pecan orchard on the edge of town and went to swinging - no discussion. But that was 45 years ago before everything got pussified.
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294427 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:45 pm to
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What do you suggest then?


A clear and concise plan with zero waffling.

Trump didnt make it three days.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:46 pm to
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Call it negotiating or whatever you want. I’m not happy that there’s any compromise outside of 0 tariffs on both sides. Either go all in or shut the frick up Trump


You'll get neither of those things.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62492 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:47 pm to
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It’s called deal making.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24419 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 12:47 pm to
Most of it is equipment used to start making chips here under the chips act. Why would we want to make it harder for them to do that?
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