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re: Full approval for Pfizer Covid vaccine could come from FDA Monday

Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Mattmac12
Member since Aug 2021
1167 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:06 pm to
Not one. Not two. Not three not four. Not five
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:06 pm to
Hammer time
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:07 pm to
Aw, sowwy I hut u feewins little man.....
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52879 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:10 pm to
He can guzzle some Pfizer DNA juice when his tankard of cum runs out
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:10 pm to
Yeah I think I made he/she cry....
Posted by Mattmac12
Member since Aug 2021
1167 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:14 pm to
It’s rubber stamp makes no difference to me or anyone else who decided we won’t get it no matter what
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43908 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:15 pm to
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Why? We have no long-term data on it yet



It is a vaccine. The active ingredients consist of mRNA inside an envelope made up of two lipids. The inactive ingredients are cholesterol, sodium phosphate, potassium chloride, sodium chloride (aka salt), sucrose, and water. The lipid envelops bind to dendritic cells and release the mRNA within a few hours after injection. Those lipid envelops are then degraded by the body. The mRNA makes the spike proteins for the immune system recognize but by 3-5 days after injection all the mRNA has been used up or natural killer cells have killed the infected dendritic cells. So the components of the vaccine do not stay in the body long enough to cause long term damage.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 6:37 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13559 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:16 pm to
Guess they offered the speediest and highest 'reward' for approval!
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1749 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:17 pm to
This is the part where the goalposts move for a lot of people. Have to cling to something else for jot getting it.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:21 pm to
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So the components of the vaccine do not stay in the body long enough to cause long term damage.


Myocarditis
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43908 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:22 pm to
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Myocarditis


Fancy word for inflammation of the heart with a incidence rate of 4.8 cases per 1,000,000 vaccinations per JAMA. It also resolves on its own without treatment within a few weeks. So it is not really that prevalent or a long term issue.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 6:36 pm
Posted by GB1017LSU
Member since Nov 2015
1070 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:23 pm to
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Only strengthens my resolve not to take it


Boom!
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:25 pm to
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It is a vaccine?


Irrelevant. The FDA needs to look at short and long-term data for FDA approval. Speculation is not a substitute for actual data.

Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9549 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:37 pm to
How are you defining long-term, baw? We have a years worth of data at this point.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43908 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:41 pm to
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Irrelevant. The FDA needs to look at short and long-term data for FDA approval. Speculation is not a substitute for actual data.



Oh for frick's sake. It has been given to hundreds of millions of people worldwide and there is a data overload. No other vaccine or drug in history has this many subjects and/or this much data available or been as closely reviewed as the covid-19 vaccines have. Saying that more data is needed for a vaccine that has been given to hundreds of like saying need more data to tell us beer and titties are a great combination.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9906 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:44 pm to
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Moderna is much more effective 6 months out.


Moderna is a higher dose (100 microgram vs 30), may explain why efficacy has held up better than Pfizer. Would also explain why the side effects feel worse.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36416 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:52 pm to
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long-term data for FDA approval.



How long?

There is over a years worth of data on the trial patients.

There are drugs and procedures that have been approved with those types of timelines on follow ups.

There is a distinct urgency from a medical perspective and from an economic/social perspective to have an effective measure to help this pandemic.

The shot works. All this crap about 40% efficacy is dumb because even without a booster it improves hospitalizations and deaths which is a HUGE deal when you are talking about a virus that essentially everyone is going to eventually get.

If you don’t want to take it it’s your right.

Just don’t blame the FDA for approving something that has been proven safe
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9549 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:58 pm to
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How long?

There is over a years worth of data on the trial patients.

There are drugs and procedures that have been approved with those types of timelines on follow ups.

There is a distinct urgency from a medical perspective and from an economic/social perspective to have an effective measure to help this pandemic.

The shot works. All this crap about 40% efficacy is dumb because even without a booster it improves hospitalizations and deaths which is a HUGE deal when you are talking about a virus that essentially everyone is going to eventually get.

If you don’t want to take it it’s your right.

Just don’t blame the FDA for approving something that has been proven safe


My man! Based and vaxxpilled.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:19 pm to
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This is the part where the goalposts move for a lot of people


We learned from you Vax-Cultists.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:20 pm to
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or a long term issue.


You have no clue what the long term effects are.
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