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Frank Luntz tells CNN what they don't want to hear.

Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:24 am to
I'm gonna need to hear a rebuttal from the dead racoon on his head before I can decide if I agree.
Posted by ezride25
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Member since Nov 2008
24453 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:26 am to
With all of the other things people can identify as these days (according to some) I don’t see why this is such a big deal.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7252 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:29 am to
‘Blexit’ can’t literally be a thing without the black female vote. Not enough black men vote to make this possible. Black women are not going to abandon Joe and Kamala for Trump
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101877 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:33 am to
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‘Blexit’ can’t literally be a thing without the black female vote. Not enough black men vote to make this possible. Black women are not going to abandon Joe and Kamala for Trump


What’s the spread in Georgia? Michigan?
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10414 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:35 am to
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‘Blexit’ can’t literally be a thing without the black female vote. Not enough black men vote to make this possible. Black women are not going to abandon Joe and Kamala for Trump


I only know 2 black women very well, and I think they are both going to vote for Trump.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7252 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:37 am to
Trump absolutely can win Michigan if the Arab/Hamas vote stays home which is possible

Trump has no chance here in Georgia. Too many college educated Moderate and Independents in the metro area that are done with him. Rural vote isn’t enough to pull him or any candidate through here anymore. It’s why Kemp distanced himself from Trump. He got the metro vote that refused to vote for Trump in 2020. Trump cannot win here without them.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
1104 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:38 am to
It’s true, I’m young and black under 40.

Old black men hate Trump because he reminds them of the average PT poster who called them racist names in the 70s and can’t let it go.


Young black men dealt with our own trash destroying our communities and terrorizing our neighborhoods and we’re sick of it and trying to take charge instead of crying about racism.


Racism isn’t shooting up the neighborhood
Racism didn’t kill your childhood friend
Racism isn’t robbing your grandmother
Racism isn’t in your school board failing you
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18289 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:40 am to
one third? never happen in our lifetime
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36358 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:41 am to
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Trump has no chance here in Georgia. 

Trump lost Georgia by less than 12,000 votes in 2020. You are totally broken. Just because you hate the man doesn't he mean he has no chance, especially if he can pull more of the black male vote than he did in 2020.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
1104 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:42 am to
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Blexit’ can’t literally be a thing without the black female vote. Not enough black men vote to make this possible. Black women are not going to abandon Joe and Kamala for Trump


They’re just going to sit home. I know so many black women who got up for the first time and voted for Joe now they hate him and are staying home.


I recently had a conversation with a co worker a black woman. She was shitting on republicans then we started talking about New Orleans.


I told her all the problems we have here and she agreed and said that’s why she couldn’t live here. I point out to here you hate republicans but look at where you live and say how much better it is. Then you said your involved in the community and are around all these old white people and love how much they care and it got you to volunteer also. So I said how can you vote democrat when you prefer to be and live around republicans.


She literally had a shocked looked in her face and said I never thought about that and I was right. It didn’t make sense


Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7252 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:43 am to
Here’s another thing you imbeciles seem to not understand. Joe can get to 270 without Georgia. Trump can’t. He has to have Georgia to get to 270.

Trump will not get the metro votes needed. Look at 2016 and 2020. He did mediocre with them.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36358 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:51 am to
If RFK, Stein and West are on the ballot, Trump doesn't need the metro votes to the degree he did in 2020. Biden is hemorrhaging voters on both of his flanks. Your entire argument is based on your irrational hatred of an imperfect candidate, while you conveniently ignore the fact that an even worse candidate is underperforming even worse than Trump with demographics necessary for his victory.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15911 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:51 am to
While I hope he's right, he's a complete clown and I don't know why anyone takes him seriously. Just look at him and that ridiculous rug on his head. The lack of self awareness and delusion negates anything he says about anything.

ETA: there are at least four Frank Luntz lovers on this board. Frank Luntz is a clown and sucks.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69215 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:53 am to
why would any straight male vote for Joe Biden?


Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31519 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:55 am to
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It’s true, I’m young and black under 40.


The black dudes I know in their mid 40's are voting for Trump. They aren't scared to say it either.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69215 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:55 am to
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Trump has no chance here in Georgia




You would prefer to trade a rapist illegal for a young nursing student.


Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6869 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:56 am to
Trump will never get anywhere near that percentage of black male votes; they know who signs their "pay checks".
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109851 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:56 am to
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Black women are not going to abandon Joe and Kamala for Trump


If they can no longer feed their children they might.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7252 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 10:59 am to
No my entire argument is based on being a lifetime metro Atlanta resident. Things have changed here in the last 20 years. And guess what? I hate it. Once solidly Republican areas like Gwinnett and Cobb have turned into shitholes full of Illegal Immigrants and northeastern transplants. All you have to do is look at the numbers Hillary got here in 2016. She was an awful candidate and got a lot of votes in the metro. This isn’t changing it’s only going to get worse as time goes on. This is just reality it doesn’t mean I like it or even agree with it. Trump is fricking toxic here. It’s why he and his handpicked candidates like Walker and Perdue were rejected. It’s why Kemp and everyone down ballot in the 2022 mid terms statewide won because they distanced themselves from Trump.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 11:00 am
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