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re: Fox poll claims 10% of republicans less likely to support since he’s been convicted.

Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:51 pm to
“Less likely” doesn’t mean “vote for Joe Biden”. Jfc people.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:52 pm to
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So I understand, you're arguing that Biden didn't pinch her or you're arguing it's no big whoop if he did? ETA - do you also believe Ashley Biden's diary is fake?


I’m arguing he didn’t pinch her nipple. Watch the video, the little girl is laughing at the end of it. She clearly didn’t think anything happened. It says this is Senator Daines’s swearing in. Has he ever said anything believing this is what happened? Has his wife or anyone in his family? I’m going to go out on a limb and say no.

With regards to the diary, I genuinely have no thoughts on it as I haven’t ever looked into it. I’ve seen the references on here and such but have never dug into it. Here’s the thing though. You just sold me this video as a big deal, and it is nothing. If you want people believe big claims, you can’t chicken little other things. I have no reason to put any stock in the diary after you put it on par with this video. Do you see how the one influences the other?
Posted by Nuts
Michigan
Member since Oct 2011
1136 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:53 pm to
Got it, so we're voting for Nikki now?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:54 pm to
Polls I’ve seen have moved 6 points in favor of Trump nationally, seem like it’s the independents and Dems moving towards Trump
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1941 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:54 pm to
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A lot of people think



Bull



shite


A lot would be the people on D U.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22911 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:55 pm to
10% of RINOs

FIFY
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79187 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:55 pm to
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Trump has actually been found guilty of rape in civil court


Wrong. The jury didn't buy the claim but hit him with a lottery verdict anyway.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:56 pm to
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Less likely” doesn’t mean “vote for Joe Biden”.


That is 100% the case. If they were never going to vote for Trump, then this poll is meaningless. If they realistically were going to vote for Trump and now don’t, then that’s huge even if they don’t for Biden. The margins are going to be so tight that you don’t have to take a vote from your opponent to get a win. You just need them to stay home. That can be enough.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35095 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:56 pm to
So the left will suddenly out of nowhere become ballers and start making shrewd move after shrewd move despite previously having had a streak of 100% terrible decisions…..and on the other side Trump suddenly out of nowhere goes from a strong alpha to a weak beta?? I wouldn’t count bro. But I get it……a boy can dream can’t he??
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:57 pm to
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10% of RINOs FIFY


Problem is their votes count as much as anyone else’s vote. The margins are so tight that neither candidate can say F ‘em. Didn’t want that vote anyway.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7728 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:06 pm to
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ETA - do you also believe Ashley Biden's diary is fake?


According to Ashley Biden's letter to the judge in the case against the woman who stole her diary.

'Ashley Biden wrote that others had "once-grossly" misinterpreted her "once-private" writings and thrown "false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

Biden also said that her "innermost thoughts" recorded in the diary had been "constantly distorted and manipulated," and assumed that the point of the theft was to "peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts."'

I'm sure her telling you what what was reported were distorted, manipulated and false doesn't sway you at all... but it's kind of hard to call the person who's words you want to use as "proof" a liar when they tell you it's not true.



Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:07 pm to
Don’t believe the donations. Believe Rupert Murdoch News Network.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:09 pm to
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I’m arguing he didn’t pinch her nipple. Watch the video, the little girl is laughing at the end of it. She clearly didn’t think anything happened

I see it differently. I see her react to his hand moving down her chest like she doesn't want it there. Why the frick was his hand there in the first place?

She was Daines's niece.

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You just sold me this video as a big deal, and it is nothing. If you want people believe big claims, you can’t chicken little other things. I have no reason to put any stock in the diary after you put it on par with this video. Do you see how the one influences the other?

That's your view. Here's mine - the reason I don't give Biden the benefit of the doubt as his hands slides over a little girls chest and she reacts like he's done something untoward is because of all the other evidence about Joe Biden. The diary you're not sure about is real, and in it his daughter writes about inappropriate showers with Joe and how fricked she was about sex growing up in his house.

You wouldn't have a problem with Joe Biden if that was your little girl in that video?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:14 pm to
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You wouldn't have a problem with Joe Biden if that was your little girl in that video?


I would have zero issue. None at all. I’m a hugger though. I’m touchy feely. My daughter is as well. Maybe that colors my viewpoint. Who knows? I just know I see absolutely nothing that causes me any concern as a parent, and I say that as someone who is responsible for a lot of kids and not just my own and is very vigilant to protect them.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52162 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:15 pm to
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A lot of people think (in my opinion correctly) that for a jury of 12 to unanimously convict someone on 34 counts there has to be at least somewhat convincing evidence of a crime.

There was - according to the instructions that corrupt democrat judge gave the jury.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:23 pm to
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I would have zero issue. None at all. I’m a hugger though. I’m touchy feely. My daughter is as well. Maybe that colors my viewpoint. Who knows?

I'm not a hugger and know better than to be touchy/feely with little kids. I would have a problem with another adult that touched my 8 yo daughter the way Biden does in that video. I wonder which of us is the more typical father in this regard.

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I just know I see absolutely nothing that causes me any concern as a parent, and I say that as someone who is responsible for a lot of kids and not just my own and is very vigilant to protect them.

I coached my 8th grade daughters basketball team. I asked a mom of another girl on the team to be my assistant that knew zero about basketball. I told her the whole of her job was to "mother" the girls when they needed it, that I was not going to ever do more than a fist bump. No hugs for owies or wins. Just fist bumps. I also told her she was to follow me around every step so that there was never a moment where I was alone with one of the girls. Not because I didn't trust myself, I'm no Joe Biden - but I never wanted even the chance of someone, player or parent, to even imagine something off.

This was consistent with training the school required of all their adult volunteers. I'm surprised it's not the norm.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:29 pm to
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I coached my 8th grade daughters basketball team. I asked a mom of another girl on the team to be my assistant that knew zero about basketball. I told her the whole of her job was to "mother" the girls when they needed it, that I was not going to ever do more than a fist bump. No hugs for owies or wins. Just fist bumps. I also told her she was to follow me around every step so that there was never a moment where I was alone with one of the girls. Not because I didn't trust myself, I'm no Joe Biden - but I never wanted even the chance of someone, player or parent, to even imagine something off. This was consistent with training the school required of all their adult volunteers. I'm surprised it's not the norm.


You’re talking about safe sanctuary training, and I have went through it plenty of times and administered it plenty of times. I completely agree you shouldn’t be alone with a kid, boy or girl. You can work one on one, but someone else should be in the room. This is for everyone’s safety, not just the kid’s.


I will say I think you are being overly cautious on your end with no hugs for owies, but that’s just me. If you do it in front of others and aren’t a creep about it, I don’t see an issue.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170659 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:31 pm to
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Are they polling bill Kristol and Lisa merkowski? No way 10% of registered republicans that would have voted walk away after this.

Those 10% won't be walking away...those were the ones that didn't support him before this
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:35 pm to
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I will say I think you are being overly cautious on your end with no hugs for owies, but that’s just me. If you do it in front of others and aren’t a creep about it, I don’t see an issue.

It's just not me. I'm affectionate with my own kids and my mom and bros/sisters, but I do not hug other kids or adults. That's just me.

And it may color my reaction to that video, but I think far less so than everything else we have seen and know about Biden. I don't think it's an accident how fricked up his kids are, and all the pics/videos of Joe doing creepy things - it's cumulative. Would you trust that fricker to babysit your kids? I wouldn't.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:37 pm to
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That 10 percent was jot going to vote for him anyway. It's sad when only 10 percent of your party has morals and a brain.


You're describing people who can't think and have no conviction. Just mindless idiots who vote based on headlines. Just like you.
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