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re: Fox News poll: Biden beats trump by 12, Hillary beats Trump by 2
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:17 am to antibarner
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:17 am to antibarner
quote:Their last poll on Impeachment was D+14, so I’m sure this one was similar.
What was this one D plus 15?
It’s retarded. The country is basically 30D-40I-30R right now with Independents having a slight lean D. Certainly not a +14 D skew. Maybe a +2 at the very most.
HOWEVER, there are also a considerable number of classic Liberals who are registered Democrats who are completely disenfranchised and jaded who are claiming the Dem’s platform has gone way too far Left with all the Socialism talk, and they either won’t vote or will go for a 3rd party candidate.
There’s also a large faction of Progressives (the ex-Bernie Bro’s/Jimmy Dore crowd) who can’t stand any of the candidates except Gabbard and Yang, who stand zero chance of being the Dem nominee.
So there are two large groups of D’s and left-leaning I’s that likely won’t pull the D lever for the DNC nominee.
Needless to say, if a poll runs anything over about a +5 D skew, it’s well outside reality and even beyond a fair margin of error, and should be thrown out.
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 10:19 am
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:20 am to Northwestern tiger
Biden can't win the nomination though. LOL
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:21 am to ShortyRob
Also. Unfortunately for the Democrats, we don't elect based on popular vote
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:23 am to Northwestern tiger
Biden's early stage of dementia is coming into play.
warren and sanders fiscal plans should scare the hell out of everyone with a functioning brain.
warren and sanders fiscal plans should scare the hell out of everyone with a functioning brain.
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:26 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Between 10-17 percent of voters are undecided or backing third-party candidates.
They still haven't learned from 2016 polls. These are not undecided voters. These are people voting for Trump who do not want to get harassed by looney leftists for stating anything remotely positive about Trump. How can they be backing third-party candidates when no third party candidate has declared they are going to run yet?
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:31 am to Northwestern tiger
49% Democrat 11% Indy in this poll - Dems are somehow MORE oversampled in this poll than the previous one 
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 10:33 am
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:38 am to Northwestern tiger
49% Dem
41% Rep
Rest Independent and other.
41% Rep
Rest Independent and other.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:39 am to SirWinston
quote:
49% Democrat 11% Indy in this poll - Dems are somehow MORE oversampled in this poll than the previous one
Fox News polling has lost all credibility.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:39 am to Northwestern tiger
quote:Demo was RVs:
Fox News poll: Biden beats trump by 12, Hillary beats Trump by 2
49% Democrat
40% GOP
11% Indy
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:42 am to Northwestern tiger
Does this estimate include the Silent Majority?
They kinda made a difference last time. LOL
They kinda made a difference last time. LOL
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:43 am to VOR
quote:They are an advertising delivery system. They just happen to use “news” as their medium.
Uh oh, is Fox wandering off of the reservation? Who do they think they are, an independent news organization?
20 years ago they saw a wealthy demographic segment that was being underserved by the other news-based advertising delivery systems, and realize they could make a huge amount of money for their corporate bosses by targeting that demographic. And it worked bigly.
Now, most of that demographic (older white people who tend towards conservative values) have either been dying off or aging to the point of no longer making financial decisions, and leaving their wealth to younger, more “woke” generations (who, it should be added, don’t spend nearly as much time getting their advertising from watching cable news). Their advertisers know this, so they are shifting their “news” content accordingly to make their advertisers (and their corporate masters) happy.
And look at you, actually referring to “Faux Noos” as an “independent news organization”. Isn’t that adorable.
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:43 am to NC_Tigah
I guess they think if they show it enough times people will believe it.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:51 am to NC_Tigah
This national polling is also useless.
The fact that Trump is having rallies in states like Minnesota IMO it’s a tell that the Trump campaign internal polling shows that they have a good shot at winning that state.
Watch Trumps rally schedule and where he doesn’t visit. Those state he either has in the bag or he has no chance. I expect him to visit states like Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Maine next year A LOT.
The fact that Trump is having rallies in states like Minnesota IMO it’s a tell that the Trump campaign internal polling shows that they have a good shot at winning that state.
Watch Trumps rally schedule and where he doesn’t visit. Those state he either has in the bag or he has no chance. I expect him to visit states like Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Maine next year A LOT.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:11 am to Northwestern tiger
Biden can’t even win his party’s nomination. 
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:13 am to More&Les
OAN
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:20 am to Northwestern tiger
I gotta tell you . . .
As a conservative, I truly like many things Trump has done. Not all, but most.
Outside of that . . . I just don't like the man. Likability matters - just look at Obama. I disagree with most of his politics but could see myself having great conversations with him for hours - outside of politics. He was an intelligent, decent human being. Not sure I'd like to hang with Trump - I'd probably get tired of his "me, me, me" BS after just a few minutes.
Many of us feel the same way. I know a lot of very caring and nurturing Democrats that I love (including my parents). On the other hand, I also know an a-hole conservative or two.
I'll always be a conservative, but understand the human condition.
I'm buying the poll.
As a conservative, I truly like many things Trump has done. Not all, but most.
Outside of that . . . I just don't like the man. Likability matters - just look at Obama. I disagree with most of his politics but could see myself having great conversations with him for hours - outside of politics. He was an intelligent, decent human being. Not sure I'd like to hang with Trump - I'd probably get tired of his "me, me, me" BS after just a few minutes.
Many of us feel the same way. I know a lot of very caring and nurturing Democrats that I love (including my parents). On the other hand, I also know an a-hole conservative or two.
I'll always be a conservative, but understand the human condition.
I'm buying the poll.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:24 am to Northwestern tiger
The polls this far out are total bullshite. You could basically pick any result you wanted and find a poll that would support. For example, this time four years ago the polls ranged from HRC +15 to DJT +5.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:29 am to VOR
LOL. You mentally ill fricks are going to start backing the evil fox news now?
LOLOLOL
This is great to watch. Trump finished breaking you.
LOLOLOL
This is great to watch. Trump finished breaking you.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:29 am to Northwestern tiger
The Fox polls have gone off the rails. Even looking at their results on the economy or immigration they are way outside of the margins of other established polling companies. Those other polling companies were dead wrong on the 2016 election too.
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:36 am to GumboPot
quote:So is RV polling. So is a partisan skew aligning Dem % identically with pro-Impeachment %
This national polling is also useless.
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