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re: For the board conspiracy theorists - The Jimmy Dore Show

Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:12 pm to
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Why would we bomb our own Pentagon, while the rest of the country is watching live hijackings?

Anyone that believes the US did that as a last minute decision, once the first WTC tower got hit is NUTS


Because they had just announced they lost a trillion dollars and wanted to test the structural upgrades they just finished in that section.

That's not proof of course, but to claim there is no motive is silly.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17429 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:13 pm to
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They could end the discussion just be releasing pentagon footage of the event from other cameras if they really wanted.

Seems unlikely only a single camera caught it.

It’s probably time to share a secret that most government officials are embarrassed to admit. A lot of those cameras do not work.

One particular location I am familiar with had 95% of the cameras non operational. They were just old technology that was not maintained or updated. You can tell by the image quality of that one pentagon camera that it too was a poor quality camera.

That’s what happens with government contracts for space and facility management. Lowest bid technically acceptable.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34540 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Because they had just announced they lost a trillion dollars and wanted to test the structural upgrades they just finished in that section.

Youre retarded

"Hey lets fire a missile into the building that I'm sitting in to test the upgrades, now that these hijackings have begun"
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40805 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Youre retarded

"Hey lets fire a missile into the building that I'm sitting in to test the upgrades, now that these hijackings have begun"


Why are you pretending like it would have been a spur of the moment thing?

Or that it's not a huge benefit for those who get to do the repairs and further upgrades after?

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17429 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:34 pm to
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There are a few witnesses that saw a plane.

What’s the right amount of witnesses when there is also wreckage, and human remains?
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I guess you also believe building 7 just fell on it's own as well with no demolition involved.

No one believe it fell on its own with no demolition involved.

Here’s part of the demolition that had a role in the structural failure:


The primary structural failure was obviously fires that burned uncontrolled for several hours because the building’s water supply to the sprinklers was disrupted. Heat caused long span floor beams and girders to thermally expand. That initiates further demolition because gravity remains undefeated.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 1:36 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34540 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 3:06 pm to
Anyone that would have issued that order would have been sitting in that building at the time. And the minions carrying out that order would also have been in that same building.

They would have been on the whistleblowers hotline before the missile was launched, due to them being target practice. Plus, there would have been a line of cars leaving the parking lot, and yet pictures and videos dont show any traffic leaving the Pentagon

Youre not a serious person
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40805 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 3:11 pm to
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Anyone that would have issued that order would have been sitting in that building at the time. And the minions carrying out that order would also have been in that same building.

They would have been on the whistleblowers hotline before the missile was launched, due to them being target practice. Plus, there would have been a line of cars leaving the parking lot, and yet pictures and videos dont show any traffic leaving the Pentagon

Youre not a serious person


What do you mean issued the order? In no way did the official government participate in any of it purposely.

Why do you keep taking things to weird places?
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
1498 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:19 pm to
Where did this guy get the idea Tim McVeigh was ever in contact with Bin Laden? I've never heard anybody claim that.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34540 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:59 pm to
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What do you mean issued the order? In no way did the official government participate in any of it purposely.

You think a military weapon was released from a govt facility, and no one was told to do it


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40805 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:24 pm to
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You think a military weapon was released from a govt facility, and no one was told to do it



Again, I have no idea wtf you are talking about.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:29 pm to
Yea nevermind the 150+ eyewitnesses that watched it bank, come in low and clip light poles before hitting.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 6:34 pm
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:36 pm to
It was not a 747, it was a 757 and over 150 witnesses saw it.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:39 pm to
How exactly was the missile fired into the pentagon?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17429 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:41 pm to
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That doesn’t look like a commercial jet, it looks like either a seagull or a missile.

Where do these large seagulls come from?

Or where would a missile capable of doing that much damage be launched from?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40805 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:46 pm to
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How exactly was the missile fired into the pentagon?


What does that have to do with they won't release clear photos to show what it was?
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:48 pm to
Because the cameras were garbage. Technology was not near what it is now. My question is if you believe it was a missile, how did it get there?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
40805 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 7:12 pm to
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Because the cameras were garbage. Technology was not near what it is now. My question is if you believe it was a missile, how did it get there?


I never said it was a missile, I said the entire thing could be cleared up by the pentagon releasing the footage.

And I find it odd that the pentagon wouldn't release the footage, ESPECIALLY if it was poor quality.

If you want to get into the "how dids" then how did a pilot without much training manage to turn a commercial jet into a missile doing those low flight maneuvers at speeds over 500mph and 350mph upon impact which experts say required extreme precision.


Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 8:15 pm to
They have shown the camera footage before the cameras and the cameras only captured 1 to 2 fps as the jet was going over 500 mph it just looks like a white blur.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 8:18 pm to
The conspiracy theory was that a missile was pushed out the back of a C130 that was flying low nearby. The problem with that conspiracy theory is that in 2001 the C130 didnt have that capability. They didnt get that capability till 2009.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
3210 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 8:31 pm to
While there were people at his schools said he was too poor of a pilot to make that manuvuer. The commercial pilots on the commission said it really was not difficult. They said that he was not trying to land the aircraft because he was intentionally crashing it that there was a lot he was not having to do and that they could see from the black box how he had made several mistakes from what he was trying to do. They stated that the size of the pentagon still allowed him to hit it despite his mistakes.
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