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Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:47 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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after a series of courts have agreed with me, and you are whining about the injustice of it all.
If that is what happens (and it might), I will tell you right now that I will whine about the injustice of it all.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:47 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:It IS a "tough standard," and it SHOULD be.
If so, I think that's a mighty tough standard.
Because we don't want LEOs killing people without VERY good reason.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:48 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
You are a clown
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:50 pm to deeprig9
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Whatever Minneapolis judge who gets the case won't allow that tidbit in court. It's like you forgot all about the Chauvin screwjob he got in his trial.
You do realize who has jurisdiction in this matter (hint it’s not local)?
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:51 pm to Jbird
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You are a clown
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:51 pm to Jbird
(airkiss)
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:52 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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It IS a "tough standard," and it SHOULD be.
Because we don't want LEOs killing people without VERY good reason.
I would submit that a person almost killing an officer with a car is a very good reason.
And at this point I will change my language. I don't think it's a tough standard. I think it's an unreasonable one.
There are plenty of things that the court should stop officers from being able to do. Drug sniffing dogs, no-knock warrants, all of the 4th amendment violations allowed "for officer safety."
But shooting someone who almost kills you with her car isn't one of them. It obviously wasn't a retaliatory shooting, it was a reflex firing in milliseconds based on almost being killed.
When we get to the point that no one of quality at all is willing to do that job, this sort of nonsense will be the reason why.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:52 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Tell me more about videos Barney!
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:56 pm to crewdepoo
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Step out of the way
It's funny how you're downvoted, when reality is, shooting the driver didn't save his life, the car didn't stop. That's why law enforcement isn't supposed to shoot moving cars per their own training (also they are taught not to walk right in front of a car for this literal reason)...
Not to mention the guy was already pulling out his gun before the car moved...
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:57 pm to SpecialK_88
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Not to mention the guy was already pulling out his gun before the car moved...
Don't you reckon that's because he saw the driver reach down and put the car in gear?
EDIT: Actually, that's not true at all. The car backed up. The officer drew the gun when she put it in gear to go forward.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:59 pm to KCT
agreed, he was being attacked by an SUV.....
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:00 pm to wackatimesthree
People who don't have an answer and just downvote are such punk bitches.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:01 pm to wackatimesthree
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EDIT: Actually, that's not true at all. The car backed up. The officer drew the gun when she put it in gear to go forward.
So, he has the time it takes her to backup and pull out his gun to get out of the way...And he decides not to, but to shoot her instead, which would not save him because that car wasn't going to stop...
You're not making it better for him.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:04 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:I think this is correct. He started reaching for his weapon at APPROXIMATELY the same time that Good shifted from reverse to forward.quote:Don't you reckon that's because he saw the driver reach down and put the car in gear?
Not to mention the guy was already pulling out his gun before the car moved...
EDIT: Actually, that's not true at all. The car backed up. The officer drew the gun when she put it in gear to go forward.
It is not clear, however, whether he reached for his weapon because Good was shifting gears OR because of the actions of his fellow officers.
It is fair to prognosticate, however, that he will CLAIM he did so based upon Good's actions.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:06 pm to SpecialK_88
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So, he has the time it takes her to backup and pull out his gun to get out of the way
Have you watched the video?
She backs up. When she puts the car in gear to go forward, he pulls the gun, because he's standing in front of the car. But he's only a few feet in front of the car.
So you tell me, she's going forward now, he's just a few feet in front of the car...under what circumstances is he not in danger of being struck at that point?
Until she starts moving, he doesn't have any idea whether she is going to go straight forward, turn left or turn right. All he knows is she's going forward now.
I know y'all want to make it sound like he was 25 feet in front of the car and had 30 seconds to decide what to do, but that's not the reality of the video.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:06 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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It is fair to prognosticate, however, that he will CLAIM he did so based upon Good's actions.
Then he'll also have to explain how he could see her moving the gear (which most likely is by the cupholders and not in his view) but he couldn't see her clearly rotating the wheel (which would definitely be in view) to steer the car away from him...
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:12 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
I don’t think the universally accepted training and technique provides that you only pull your service weapon at the moment you know beyond all doubt that you must fire it. I’d be willing to bet that the decades-old standard, understood and accepted standard, is that you unholster and ready your weapon based on indicators or “clues” leading a reasonable person to believe that the situation is quite possibly or likely heading in the direction of the unfortunate necessity of lethal force.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:12 pm to SpecialK_88
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he couldn't see her clearly rotating the wheel (which would definitely be in view) to steer the car away from him
1. How do you know the wheel wasn't already turned to the right? If it was, then he wouldn't have been able to see her turn it at all.
2. He was still in the way of the car even with the wheel turned all the way. How do I know? Because she actually hit him with the car with the wheel turned to the right. Again, he was only a couple of steps in front of the car.
Posted on 1/9/26 at 8:13 pm to DyeHardDylan
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You don’t understand the lefts reaction to this without first understanding that they’re not mad that she died, they’re mad she didn’t kill him.
True
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