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re: For Anybody Here Who Thinks the ICE Agent Acted Wrongly, Tell Me What He Should've Done

Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13464 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:28 pm to
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You and I have to follow the board rules why shouldn't he


I didn't realize he broke board rules. What rule did he break?
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9732 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:28 pm to
You don’t understand the lefts reaction to this without first understanding that they’re not mad that she died, they’re mad she didn’t kill him.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:30 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:28 pm to
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Don't be a tattletale.

This board is monolithic enough without trying to get a dissenting voice thrown off. Hank's not doing anything but disagreeing.

Surely you're not afraid of that.
SOS is a whiny little ....

Well, I'll not finish that thought.

The funny thing is that he always seems to think that he is "winning."
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
482 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:28 pm to
Idk. This is tough.

I’ve never seen a cop shoot someone’s head off just from resisting. Slightly excessive.

If you resist you die?


This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33491 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:29 pm to
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But it does seem to me that the one officer who was struck by the vehicle shouldn't be the lone consideration.



quote:

if police officers are justified in firing at a suspect in order to end a severe threat to public safety, the officers need not stop shooting until the threat has ended


He ended the severe threat to public safety

I posted a video earlier of a man in a g wagon that a cop only grazed in the head as he ran over the cop

The man came back to run over the cop again as he was trying to put on a tourniquet
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15807 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:30 pm to
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The funny thing is that he always seems to think that he is "winning."


I don't always win. No one does. But I've made you look stupid when you tried arguing that drag queens were not dangerous and you thinking pedophiles should be housed in minium security prisons. Just to name a couple.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20204 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:30 pm to
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Probably shoot her tires out


Are you being serious? Please tell me you are not!
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13464 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:30 pm to
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Read Rickard. The two cases bear exactly zero resemblance to one another.


O.k., that's fine.

I didn't ask the question because of that case, it just showed up at the same time.

But you haven't answered the question.

An officer is obligated to be able to articulate exactly what other officers or bystanders might be in danger and where they were mere milliseconds after barely surviving being struck by a vehicle driven by the person whom he shot?

That's the legal standard?

That's a heck of a standard.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:32 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15807 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:31 pm to
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didn't realize he broke board rules. What rule did he break?


Using a alter because his Hank handle is banned
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:31 pm to
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quote:

Ms. Goode was sitting still on a city street
Until she tried to drive away quickly, recklessly disregarding the safety of the officers in the proximity of her car.
Again, read Rickard.

It was the precursor actions of the driver (the long, dangerous, high-speed chase) that justified the use of deadly force ... not the mere attempt to leave the parking lot.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13464 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:32 pm to
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Using a alter because his Hank handle is banned


I see.

Why was he banned?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13464 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:33 pm to
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It was the precursor actions of the driver (the long, dangerous, high-speed chase) that justified the use of deadly force ... not the mere attempt to leave the parking lot.


Yes, in that circumstance.

But I thought you said that case was not controlling.

I'm asking just based on a reasonable standard, not any one case.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15807 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:33 pm to
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see.

Why was he banned?


Ask him
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20204 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:33 pm to
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So if someone is in the wrong, murder is justified. Got it !!!!


Yes if they are operating a vehicle that can kill or injure somebody!
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13464 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:35 pm to
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Ask him


Will do.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:37 pm to
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I'm asking just based on a reasonable standard, not any one case.

As I recall, the standard is that the actions of the officer must be reasonable ... based upon what the officer knew at the time of discharging his weapon.

In Rickard, the officer(s) knew that Rickard was about to get BACK on a roadway and likely continue his prior reckless behavior ... placing more officers and civilians at risk.

In this case, Agent Fife knew only that Good might go somewhere else and blow a whistle at some other LEO.

See the difference?

If he KNEW that there were six dozen children playing stickball in the street on the next block, the calculus would certainly be different.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:42 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:42 pm to
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A woman driving away from the office is no longer a threat, such that this "training" is no longer applicable


Are you SFP??? Lol
Seriously, wtf??? Your a complete idiot!
Tell me this, if some stupid arse Karen attempts to run you over, you pull your gun and shoot her... you have the control in a split second of defending your life that you don't continue firing.
Very few people have been in that position and are qualified to pass judgement.
Your just a clown on a message board talking about things you really have no idea about.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33491 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:43 pm to
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Rickard had led officers on a dangerous, multi-mile, high-speed chase. He was cornered in a parking lot and was shot as he was attempting to escape the parking lot and re-initiate the high-speed chase.

Ms. Goode was sitting still on a city street and maybe blowing a whistle.

I assure you that the Rickard case is not controlling here.



She was not sitting still when she drove right into the officer

ETA & she was lawfully ordered multiple times to get out of the car

Doesn't matter if it was 5 millimeters 5 miles high speed low speed reverse doing jumping jacks donuts front flips or any other horse shite you come up with...the moment you try to run over police with your vehicle it becomes a deadly weapon to which they have a right to protect themselves in self defense and end the threat to public safety

This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:46 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13464 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:44 pm to
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See the difference?


I see that there are differences, yes. I see that in the one case the officers had multiple actions over a prolonged period of time and in the other they had one action in a split second.

But again, is the case you are comparing this one to dispositive or defining of the standard or not?

If so, I think that's a mighty tough standard. It's basically like saying that—if the woman had unexpectedly produced a firearm and fired one shot out the window instead of unexpectedly striking the guy with her vehicle—that the law expects officers to determine in a split second whether or not she would do it again and concluding that since she had not engaged in such behavior before she fired the shot, there was insufficient basis to conclude that she might be a sufficient public threat to justify deadly force.

Like I posted above, that's a hell of a standard to hold LE to.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 7:46 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
AggieHank Alter
Member since Oct 2025
2968 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 7:45 pm to
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Doesn't matter if it was 5 millimeters 5 miles high speed low speed reverse doing jumping jacks donuts front flips or any other horse shite you come up with...the moment you try to run over police with your vehicle it becomes a deadly weapon to which they have a right to protect themselves in self defense and end the threat to public safety
You are mistaken, but you won't accept that from me.

In a few years, maybe we can revisit the issue ... after a series of courts have agreed with me, and you are whining about the injustice of it all.
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