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re: Food stamp prohibitions

Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:38 am to
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:38 am to
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Posted by NCdawgfan34 ? ?

If that is what you want for food stamp recipients then lets do the same for Eaton Corp, McDermott International, Iberdrola, NextEra Energy, NRG energy, Bank of America, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, Boeing, GE. Accept all their owners, board memebers, and executives can't go to any sporting event, buy airplanes, well honestly antyhing other than necessities because they receive well over 150 Billion while SNAP if well under half that. Funny thing is 93.2% of SNAP costs go straight to recipients while corporate subsidies don't go to the workers in those industries it goes to higer salaries for executives. The crazy thing is the government who can't run anything right actually does a much more efficient job in providing SNAP than the corporations who take far more in tax payer money




Your posting style hurts my head, but I weathered through it and got to the point I think you were making...

You want to end corporate subsidies.

Ok I'm open to an intellectual conversation on this and do I agree the state needs to look into it. Start a legible thread.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:39 am to
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If that is what you want for food stamp recipients then lets do the same for Eaton Corp, McDermott International, Iberdrola, NextEra Energy, NRG energy, Bank of America, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, Boeing, GE. Accept all their owners, board memebers, and executives can't go to any sporting event, buy airplanes, well honestly antyhing other than necessities because they receive well over 150 Billion while SNAP if well under half that. Funny thing is 93.2% of SNAP costs go straight to recipients while corporate subsidies don't go to the workers in those industries it goes to higer salaries for executives. The crazy thing is the government who can't run anything right actually does a much more efficient job in providing SNAP than the corporations who take far more in tax payer money.



^ whataboutism snore
Posted by NCdawgfan34
North Carolina
Member since Jun 2015
1037 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:40 am to
Hahahaha nah I'm not on food stamps. Been pretty successful in my line of work. Then again I'm not the sick frick that posted applauding a millionaire for raping some teenage girl.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74100 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:43 am to
Why are you guys under the impression that it would be costly to restrict purchases eligible with food stamps?

That is not a very hard thing to regulate. It doesn’t take a lot of funding to have a card decline things

We used to restrict it
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 11:43 am
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12845 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:46 am to
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There is already a database full of every snap receipent. All you would have to do is require strip clubs and casinos to swipe all IDs. This is not more government or more databases.

It’s all about small, incremental changes. We are already well on our way to giving up whatever privacy rights we had left, and I personally don’t think it’s any of the casino’s (or strip club’s, or whatever) fricking business what government benefits someone receives. And I sincerely doubt that the magnetic strip on my license currently contains information about whether I’m on food stamps. But some people seem to want to move in that direction voluntarily in the name of.. what, exactly?

Let’s look at this another way. How much tax money do you think would be saved by implementing your policy, and how much do you think the implementation would cost?
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:47 am to
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Why are you guys under the impression that it would be costly to restrict purchases eligible with food stamps? 

That is not a very hard thing to regulate. It doesn’t take a lot of funding to have a card decline things 

We used to restrict it


Let me take a stab at it...

Because they can't come a way to get it done easily in their head, so they just assume it is too complicated and costly.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74100 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:48 am to
I’m not in favor of restricting where food stamp recipients can go that are indoendentof their food purchases. That IS an invasion of privacy

However, I think it is perfectly reasonable and easy to accomplish to restrict what kind of food they are buying
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12845 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:48 am to
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Why are you guys under the impression that it would be costly to restrict purchases eligible with food stamps?

That’s not the argument at hand. The argument being presented is that receiving food stamps should restrict ALL purchases you’re allowed to make, and the types of businesses you’re allowed to enter.

ETA: That was the entire premise of the OP.

ETA2:
quote:

I’m not in favor of restricting where food stamp recipients can go that are indoendentof their food purchases. That IS an invasion of privacy

Then we are in agreement. Nobody in this thread is arguing that people should be able to pay for lap dances on their EBT cards.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 11:55 am
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:51 am to
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Hahahaha nah I'm not on food stamps. Been pretty successful in my line of work. Then again I'm not the sick frick that posted applauding a millionaire for raping some teenage girl.


Da fuk? You are talking about the guy that was found innocent?

Your "line of work" obviously doesnt involve much reading or writing.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:53 am to
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ETA: That was the entire premise of the OP.


The conversation evolved much more after that.

Not many people are agreeing that we should be taking those kind of rights away.
Posted by NCdawgfan34
North Carolina
Member since Jun 2015
1037 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 11:59 am to
You are correct. I read plans and do a lot of math. Not a big reader or writer. It's funny considering my dad is a professional editor and writer you would think it got passed down oh well. I'll take math and floor plans any day.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:05 pm to
Bubba wants to enter the Sip-n-Strip out on Farm Road 27 to have some suds and ogle some tiddies. Cletus the doorman cannot let Bubba enter until Cletus scans Bubba’s DL, connects to some Fed database on his 14.4 modem and awaits confirmation that Bubba is allowed to enter the building. While Bubba wairs, three more baws try to enter the building and have to wait their turn to obtain government permission to stare at bewbs.

By the end of the evening, 100 good old boys spent 20 thirsty collective hours waiting government permission to pay for lap dances, depriving hardworking single mothers of $800 in tips.

But Cletus did ID one guy on unemployment, so all is good.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Bubba wants to enter the Sip-n-Strip ou on Farm Road 27 to have some suds and ogle some tiddies. Cletus the doorman cannot let Bubba enter until Cletus scans Bubba’s DL, connects to some Fed database on his 14.4 modem and awaits confirmation that Bubba is allowed to enter the building. While Bubba wairs, three more baws try to enter the building and have to wait their turn to obtain government permission to stare at bewbs.

By the end of the evening, 100 good old boys spent 20 thirsty collective hours waiting government permission to pay for lap dances, depriving hardworking single mothers of $800 in tips.

But Cletus did ID one guy on unemployment, so all is good.




You , of course, realize how ridiculous is. I don't favor doing this, but there is no reason to be dishonest about the inconvenience to others , it would be minimal.

I myself favor a different tact.

WHy aren't we giving these people any financial training? I think we can all agree that no, someone who is on food stamps should not be having more children, nor should they be out buying the latest xbox to hook up to their 80" 12K TV. Those are the types of poor decisions that lead one to food stamps in the first place.

Again, allow me to use my little family we "helped" as an example.

For two years the kids were pretty spoiled by my wife and I , we bought them basially everything we would have bought our own kids , because well we can afford it and kids shouldn't have to do without. But the parents, the father would drink ONE beer if we were hanging out and I offered , after work or whatever when we were watching a ball game and such. He wasn't ut spending HIS money on beer while I was spending MY money trying to help his family get back on their feet.

They didn't have the biggest TV Wal Mart carried, or the fanciest shoes or any of that, no titty bars .

You know why? Because we insisted and my wife set down with them and taught them how to budget and we taught them how to grocery shop and cook at home to save money, etc etc.

Because I wanted to see a positive outcome from my monetary investment.

The difference, of course, is that no one in government cares bout positive outcomes. Just give money away and hope for the best.

It's been five years since we first took them in and they now own a home, own a new car and a 2 year old truck, the wife has graduated college , so they are a two paycheck family now . No government assistance

I'd wager most SNAP recipient stories aren't so successful.
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3665 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Abolish food stamps and other free shite programs entirely.


You do get that a lot of people who actually contribute to the economy utilize these programs, as well as a ton of the elderly?

You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater with this hot take.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17269 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:56 pm to
I have no idea if she had a job or not. But she did use a SNAP card to buy a big Gulp and a Bag of skittles. That means. She used my money to buy her food. Yours too.

Not only did I contribute to that purchase but I wIll also contribute to paying for her medical treatment to pay for the result of her ingesting liquid and solidified high fructose corn syrup as her dinner.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173419 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 12:59 pm to
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I think it’s perfectly fair that if you are on state aid, the taxpayers should be allowed to decide what you can and cannot eat with those funds



Well every tax payer thinks differently

What you really mean is that the government will decide what they can and can't have

And what THAT really means is that the lobbyists will decide what they can and can't have

Don't be naive about this taxpayer bullshite
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173419 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:01 pm to
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I have no idea if she had a job or not. But she did use a SNAP card to buy a big Gulp and a Bag of skittles. That means. She used my money to buy her food. Yours too.

What portion of your income do you think goes to SNAP benefits?

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:03 pm to
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What portion of your income do you think goes to SNAP benefits?




What portion of your income do you think goes to any individual government agency?

Hint the percentage is infinitesimally small..
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4148 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:03 pm to
I’m not taking anybody’s rights away. If I’m not mistaken, you actually have to sign up for snap or government housing.

Are you saying that the government is taking people’s right to smoke away because they live in government housing?

I gather some people have never heard of a means test. If you have the means to gamble, go to strip clubs, buy alcohol and smoke cigarettes then you have the means to support yourself. I’m not taking any persons rights away. When they sign up for assistance they must conform to the program being offered. If they need food assistance and want to do all the drinking, smoking and tipping they want then they need to go to the food bank or some other non-profit that will support our habit.

You do realize that all bars are and casinos are already responsible to know that their patrons are of legal age and can require proof upon request and can deny entry. Also, your drivers license has a ton of information on it already on that magnetic strip whether you know it or not. It can tell you a lot more than where you live and your age. It has your complete criminal history on it.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10061 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:04 pm to
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I have no idea if she had a job or not. But she did use a SNAP card to buy a big Gulp and a Bag of skittles. That means. She used my money to buy her food. Yours too




In my younger days the things I've seen people buy with food stamps, in huge amounts, to people who were perfectly healthy...

Then the same people walk up to the counter and get a carton of cigarettes and a fifth of alcohol and pay cash for that separately.

Would make your head spin at where your tax money goes.
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