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Flu vaccine and covid
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:13 pm
been wondering this all along LINKit hard to find in CDC website but Charlie Ward says it`s in there
(how`s that?)
(how`s that?)
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:16 pm to Bayoutigre
I've had 6 employees test positive. 1 of them had the flu vaccine.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:17 pm to Bayoutigre
This suggests that CV19 was in the flu vaccine.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:18 pm to Green Chili Tiger
It says died, not contracted.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:19 pm to mightyMick
What does that even mean?
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:20 pm to Bayoutigre
I would believe it. It is very well documented that the flu shot compromises your immune system.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:21 pm to notsince98
For how long?
Not that I don’t believe it, it just seems very weird.
Not that I don’t believe it, it just seems very weird.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:22 pm to notsince98
Or maybe Covid triggered a chemical/viral reaction when combined with flu vaccine. Maybe intentionally.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:28 pm to Bayoutigre
I got a flu vaccine shot and a pneumonia vaccine shot at the same time back in Nov. Less than four hours later at the house I told the wife that it felt like someone had their size 18 foot on my chest. Till this day about every 10 -15 days I have a "heavy" chest that last for two to three days and then goes away.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:33 pm to Bayoutigre
Appreciate the OP but maybe edit your title to include "Flu Vaccine and Covid."
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:35 pm to Homesick Tiger
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I got a flu vaccine shot and a pneumonia vaccine shot at the same time back in Nov. Less than four hours later at the house I told the wife that it felt like someone had their size 18 foot on my chest. Till this day about every 10 -15 days I have a "heavy" chest that last for two to three days and then goes away.
Not to be mean, but that sounds like unstable angina.
The fact that you got the vaccine for pneumonia means you are likely older which makes this more likely.
If you haven't been checked out cardio wise, I think you should consider it.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:42 pm to canyon
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For how long?
Not that I don’t believe it, it just seems very weird.
For at least twenty years.
I would suggest starting with the Ohio State studies of children immune system antibodies for kids with and without the flu shot.
The more recent studies show the increased risks for infants and the elderly.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:50 pm to notsince98
Would you mind linking the study? Very interested since I have a toddler and 10 mo old...
Posted on 8/2/20 at 2:58 pm to Bayoutigre
I've actually seen the opposite
LINK
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We analyzed data from 92,664 clinically and molecularly confirmed Covid-19 cases in Brazil to understand the potential associations between influenza vaccination and Covid-19 outcomes. Controlling for health facility of treatment, comorbidities as well as an extensive range of sociodemographic factors, we show that patients who received a recent influenza vaccine experienced on average 8% lower odds of needing intensive care treatment (95% CIs [0.86, 0.99]), 18% lower odds of requiring invasive respiratory support (0.74, 0.88) and 17% lower odds of death (0.75, 0.89). Large scale promotion of influenza vaccines seems advisable, especially in populations at high risk of severe SARS-CoV-2 infection.
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Under this setting, we hypothesize that children generate multifactorial immunity with the repeated influenza exposure that would offer bystander immune response in case they became infected with the new SARS-CoV-2. It might be possible also that individuals who received prior Flu vaccination might show mild severity of COVID-19 because of Flu-induced bystander effect of the generated immune responses which itself might cross react against SARS-CoV-2. Due to this cross reactivity between Flu and SARS-CoV-2, we suggest that the Flu-induced bystander immunity is more of beneficial effects to COVID-19 than those suggested by MMR and BCG vaccines
Given the safety of Flu vaccine in adult, we recommend the use of Flu vaccine, at least in part, as a bystander adjuvant to minimize the severity of COVID-19 disease.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:02 pm to Bayoutigre
This will get more people to get the flu vaccine this fall.
Posted on 8/2/20 at 3:13 pm to Bayoutigre
I know this: I got the flu shot for geezers in mid-October of 2019 and it made me sick. Very low grade fever, but mostly just an overall tired and goofy feeling for about 72 hours. It felt like altitude sickness and I live at sea level. It absolutely was depleted oxygen levels in my blood and hence, hypoxia. Never saw a doctor, but the whole manifestation recurred around late February. Again, 2 or 3 days and gone. ???
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/2/20 at 5:26 pm to Bayoutigre
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Flu vaccine and covid
That’s an amazing statistic, helps explains the high number of old people deaths
Posted on 8/2/20 at 5:46 pm to MonroeTigerstripes
Posted on 8/2/20 at 5:54 pm to Bayoutigre
"Coronavirus is 1.36 meaning 36% higher risk.
The influenza virus overall is 0.57 meaning the risk of contracting the flu was reduced overall. Three variants of flu did not receive a statistically significant reduction in risk.
Three of 8 evaluations noted a statistically insignificant benefit for the flu shot. Meanwhile, shot takers were at increased risk for coronavirus of 36%."
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The influenza virus overall is 0.57 meaning the risk of contracting the flu was reduced overall. Three variants of flu did not receive a statistically significant reduction in risk.
Three of 8 evaluations noted a statistically insignificant benefit for the flu shot. Meanwhile, shot takers were at increased risk for coronavirus of 36%."
LINK
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