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re: Fifth Circuit rules counting ballots that arrive after election day is illegal

Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:42 am to
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14667 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:42 am to
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Does that include military ballots? Did they not arrive after the election last year? Feels unfair to not include ballots from people fighting for our country who are overseas and cannot make it to the ballot box back home


Tough frickin shite. Did their superiors not know an election was coming? Did it just sneak up on everybody?

Could their possibly be something more sinister going on?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83393 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:42 am to
NIce

As an aside, I just can't take this Tom Fitton selfie videos he does all day seriously
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
5458 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:48 am to
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It’s called Election DAY you freaks, not Election WEEK.

It's an election season.


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The holidays may be coming up fast (have you finished all your gift shopping yet?) but one thing that took its time was California’s final election results. On Friday, 38 days after Election Day, Secretary of State Shirley Weber certified the results of the November election.

This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 6:49 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33192 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:59 am to
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Does that include military ballots? Did they not arrive after the election last year? Feels unfair to not include ballots from people fighting for our country who are overseas and cannot make it to the ballot box back home

There is zero reason why they cannot be arranged or organized to arrive prior to Election Day
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14448 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:03 am to
They need a District Judge to put a ruling nationwide to stop that right lefties
Posted by theballguy
Parody clause in full effect
Member since Oct 2011
18413 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:18 am to
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Iirc, mail in votes in Pennsylvania

-can be counted up to 3 days after the election

-don’t need a signature

-don’t need a time stamp and/or postage



How Democrats win in Penn. Only Philly is majority Democrats there and not by as much as you might think either. Rest of the state including Pittsburgh is red.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96652 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:05 am to
Doesn’t this only apply to the area of their jurisdiction which is Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi? Unless it goes to SCOTUS and they rule on it
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28435 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:01 am to
I think it should be like taxes. As long as it's postmarked by election day, then it should count.

Even in a state as big as CA, they should all be in by Thursday after election day.

The idea that states can just keep counting votes that come in weeks after the fact is patently illegal. Hell, wasn't CA counting into January this past election? That shite needs to stop.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450832 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:11 am to
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Does that include military ballots?


The language used by Fitton is clearly loose (as is his schtick).

His site incorrectly links the original opinion (he uses their brief in support instead, probably intentionally as is their schtick). I can't find the original opinion, but the concurrence of this rehearing denial says this:

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I do not recognize the panel decision described by my esteemed dissenting colleagues. With greatest respect, the panel decision did not hold that the States’ “common practice” of “count[ing] timely-cast ballots received after Election Day [] was preempted by federal law.” Post, at 9–10 (Graves, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc). It is absolutely true that many States under different circumstances sometimes accept ballots received after Election Day. See id. at 9 (tallying 28 States). It is also true that federal statutes like the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (“UOCAVA”) or the Help America Vote Act (“HAVA”) authorize such receipt for narrow classes of voters described by federal law. The question presented to the panel was whether, in the absence of any federal statute authorizing any deviation from the uniform Election Day requirement, States nonetheless have freedom to accept ballots for as long as they would like. The panel held no. But it explicitly recognized that numerous States—including many if not all of the ones invoked as bugaboos by the dissenting opinion—obviously can accept ballots after Election Day under circumstances authorized by federal law. See Republican Nat’l Comm. v. Wetzel, 120 F.4th 200, 211–13 (5th Cir. 2024) (explaining that UOCAVA, HAVA, and other federal laws authorizing States to accept ballots received after Election Day show that Congress knows how to make such exceptions to the general federal deadline); compare post, at 9 (ignoring what the panel actually held and asserting the panel held “that ballot receipt laws in at least twenty-eight states and the District of Columbia are preempted by federal law[]”).
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
388 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:50 am to
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Does that include military ballots? Did they not arrive after the election last year? Feels unfair to not include ballots from people fighting for our country who are overseas and cannot make it to the ballot box back home


Service members stationed oversees have plenty of time to fill out an absentee ballot and get in the mail so that it is in by election day.
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