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re: Fetuses,’ ‘Infants’ Not People Because They ‘Cannot Talk’

Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:45 pm to
The tweet explicitly lists ability to talk as a criteria for personhood.
Posted by roguetiger15
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:50 pm to
subhuman--not the fetus but Ellen Barkin.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:50 pm to
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Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt."


well if they remain silent, they aren't people
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:54 pm to
I have read the tweet many times now. Not sure why some of the communists in this thread are saying that revelator twisted what she said.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:56 pm to
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I have read the tweet many times now. Not sure why some of the communists in this thread are saying that revelator twisted what she said.


Whatever she's saying is a pretty poor logical construct either way. She mentions not talking in association with fetuses. Then she mentions babies and infants. I don't think she's saying they aren't people. Who the hell knows?

I guess it's safe to assume she's an idiot, but I wouldn't try to draw any assumptions beyond that.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:56 pm to
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I have read the tweet many times now. Not sure why some of the communists in this thread are saying that revelator twisted what she said.


The tweet is very straightforward and doesn't need any spin except for those who don't like what it says and how it speaks to people who support that side.
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:57 pm to
Again, the images are hosted somewhere that is blocked from my work server. Can anyone type out the tweets as they are written?

From what was quoted in the article (I quoted it in my earlier post), it seems as if she is saying a fetus can't talk, a fetus is not a person, a fetus is not a baby and a fetus is not an infant.

I'm not saying I agree with her, but it seems like people are getting upset over something the article misinterpreted.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:57 pm to
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I have read the tweet many times now. Not sure why some of the communists in this thread are saying that revelator twisted what she said.


It means that if you want to kill the baby after it's born, it can't cry before you kill it. That would be just plain murder.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:58 pm to
A picture of the exact tweet has been posted twice in this very thread already.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:04 pm to
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Can anyone type out the tweets as they are written?


"News flash... a fetus cannot talk. It is not a person. Not even a baby, not even an infant. Nope. Sorry."
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:06 pm to
Honestly reading the quote I'm left with an understanding that she believes infants and babies are not persons either.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:08 pm to
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I've really never understood the fervent campaigns to kill an unborn, living human being.



He who hasn't broken a child into pieces and sucked it out of a woman with a vacuum, cast the first stone.




Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Honestly reading the quote I'm left with an understanding that she believes infants and babies are not persons either.



But.. Tuba said that's not what she said. So, you know, there's that. Except that's exactly what she said.
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Honestly reading the quote I'm left with an understanding that she believes infants and babies are not persons either.


I understood that she meant a fetus is not yet an infant or a baby and therefore not a "person".
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:20 pm to
What are the chances we can appky this "can't talk = non person" standard to eligibility for political office?
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:26 pm to
fetus, baby, infant are stages of life. So just dumbfounded at the point she is trying to make.
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:29 pm to
Tuba needs to shut up or we will go vote out some more Democrats
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:31 pm to
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I understood that she meant a fetus is not yet an infant or a baby and therefore not a "person".


That's what she said, but since she also specifically said a fetus is not a person due to its inability to talk, it can easily be inferred that she also does not believe infants are persons either.
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