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re: Feeling betrayed, Trump wants a second administration stocked with loyalists

Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:05 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:05 am to
I find it hard to fault him for wanting loyalty when his first administration stabbed him in the back so much. It’s hard to be an effective leader when you are being undermined at every turn.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:06 am to
Only the best people, folks
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:08 am to
quote:

A second Trump admin will be full of incompetents.


This can’t be overstated. Trump’s first term was marked by chaos, rampant resignations, and failure to move any policy that wasn’t as easy as signing an executive order.

If elected, who’s going to work for him? It’ll be a clown show of pathetic sycophants in way over their heads.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:10 am to
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holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Post less.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46095 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:10 am to
This take is awful. His first term was a literal big tent, and the pressure from the media, SC, and dems caused many to stab him in the fricking back.

But let’s be honest here. You’d bitch no matter what he did.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296547 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:11 am to
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I find it hard to fault him for wanting loyalty when his first administration stabbed him in the back so much.



Because he cant hire competency to save his own life.

He continually stocks his cabinet with lightweights who can be bought off. You dont need loyalty, you need integrity.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22636 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:12 am to
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If elected, who’s going to work for him? It’ll be a clown show of pathetic sycophants in way over their heads.


This thread is silly. Trump can't just get anyone he wants to serve in his administration. To have a chance he has to have a republican majority in the senate. And that might not be good enough.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53758 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:13 am to
Imagine that, a POTUS wants loyalty.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93453 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:13 am to
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lightweights who can be bought off


And they back down

I would never want to be around anyone who backs down. Especially if they promise they wont
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296547 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:14 am to
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But let’s be honest here. You’d bitch no matter what he did.


You and I both judge people by the things they have done. He hired poorly last time. You know it too.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84476 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:17 am to
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You dont need loyalty, you need integrity.
Sure.

Now name a few in recent history.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16287 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:19 am to
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Oh great so Jared and Ivanka and the Israel lobby will have an office next to the Presidential suite again? Zion Don doing Zionist things.


If they are getting peace deals signed again among Israel and Muslim countries.. why the hell not.


I mean… what could be worse?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296547 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:20 am to
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Now name a few in recent history
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Just saying its hard but I would absolutely err on the side of integrity over loyalty.


Loyalty just guarantees you will see the problem in one dim light.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46095 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:25 am to
He made a few bad hires for sure. Especially Wray. But all presidents do. Case in point, Klepto tranny, Myorkas, or Habash. Throw KBJ in there too.

I don’t really fault him for the back stabbers, which were truly the big problem for him. I understand and appreciate what he tried to do with his staff, and after all the betrayal, I get why he doesn’t want to make those mistakes again.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84476 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:28 am to
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Loyalty just guarantees you will see the problem in one dim light.

Meh so 100% of the time?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45771 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:30 am to
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Because he cant hire competency to save his own life.
That is not true. His business acumen would militate against that statement. The problem isn’t competency but corruption (integrity, as you put it)

quote:

He continually stocks his cabinet with lightweights who can be bought off. You dont need loyalty, you need integrity.
Loyalty is an aspect of integrity to Trump, but being bought off isn’t a problem with competency.

Like I said: he was stabbed in the back so much that it shouldn’t be a surprise that he would look for people who would be on the same page as him and would support his administration. Ultimately that’s what any President wants: someone who will execute his vision for leadership according the principles that he adheres to. Officials that go rogue and act against the wishes of their boss undermine the authority and leadership of that boss and make it difficult to lead.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296547 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:31 am to
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I don’t really fault him for the back stabbers,


Hire true believers. They will not waver.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21346 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:33 am to
NBC News.
Unbiased, unfiltered, and fair news! LMAO
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26930 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:35 am to
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I don’t really fault him for the back stabbers


Too many people don't fault him for anything at all. Who's responsible for his hires if not him?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13713 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:37 am to
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Now name a few in recent history.

Mike Pence and Ben Carson come to mind.
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