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Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:52 am to SallysHuman
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Coming from a very sanctimonious poster
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:53 am to 4cubbies
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being from the New Orleans area i know your type very well.
My type?
Yes, your type.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:54 am to BTROleMisser
Why not opine about the actual topic?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:07 am to 4cubbies
committed a crime judges aren't above the law
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:38 am to L.A.
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Former Judge Hannah Dugan, caught red handed helping an illegal alien evade ICE agents right inside her own courthouse, has had her felony conviction UPHELD. Give her all 5 years
8 U.S.C. § 1324 is pretty clear. Shockingly, the Federal Judge saw it too.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:40 am to 4cubbies
quote:You know, I often wonder if the middle-aged males on this board don't lean in too hard when going after you. But this drivel you've typed almost convinced me you are doing nothing but trolling, as it is a caricature of a caricature of how stupid you could be.
I read this article yesterday about a recreation of the Milgram experiment (when participants were instructed to deliver electroshocks to actors at increasing voltages) that made me sad about the lack of conviction people demonstrated. Its kind of uplifting to see someone actually stick to their guns.
And BTW - the Milgram experiment is basically a scientific myth. The vast majority of people did NOT choose to "harm" the other humans in the experiment. And most of the ones that did the max shock were the ones most convinced it wasn't real.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:47 am to 4cubbies
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You’re insinuating that judges possess special knowledge about the [quote]obligation to obey federal agents.
Cubbies, I'm honestly trying to extend an olive branch here...this is EXACTLY why you catch so much flak on here.
"Special knowledge"? SERIOUSLY? YEAH LADY IT'S CALLED THE LAW! I mean, she's only a judge...why we should know about that?
And yeah, she needs to follow the law, whether she likes it or not. Seeing as how she took an oath and all to UPHOLD THE F*CKING LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES!
You berate people for thinking differently from you, but you know I can't say the same about you because you need to START ACTUALLY THINKING.
Have a blessed day.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:54 am to hogcard1964
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Is she in prison yet?
Unfortunately, I read she is not likely to receive prison/jail time since fed sentencing guidelines for this crime recommend probation when it is a nonviolent first time offender. She will likely have her license suspended and the disbarment is still a strong possibility. Fingers crossed. Regardless, she fricked her career and life three ways to Sunday
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:12 am to L.A.
I'll certainly sleep better knowing a county judge in Wisconsin has been convicted for such a heinous crime.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:49 am to Big Scrub TX
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And BTW - the Milgram experiment is basically a scientific myth. The vast majority of people did NOT choose to "harm" the other humans in the experiment. And most of the ones that did the max shock were the ones most convinced it wasn't real
You do realize the experiments were replicated by Jerry M Burger in 2006 and the results were similar.
Burger's replication results results
I would say that 79% fully complying to the max capacity of the generator is not the results you are saying were found.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:15 pm to TD422
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Cubbies, I'm honestly trying to extend an olive branch here...this is EXACTLY why you catch so much flak on here.
"Special knowledge"? SERIOUSLY? YEAH LADY IT'S CALLED THE LAW! I mean, she's only a judge...why we should know about that?
And yeah, she needs to follow the law, whether she likes it or not. Seeing as how she took an oath and all to UPHOLD THE F*CKING LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES!
I don't disagree with the conviction. JimEverett said that she should receive a harsher sentence because she was a judge at the time of the crime. That's the part I'm disputing.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:22 pm to UtahCajun
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UtahCajun
Do you think that my post connecting this to Milgram's experiment was totally off-base and out of left field? After reading Big Scrub's post, I'm trying to figure out if I'm really some sort of maverick thinker or if people are just trying to be mean to me.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:27 pm to theballguy
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Hope she does 5 years hard time. She's a dyke but since she's a judge, she may get beat tf up in there.
She’ll be welcomed as a liberator.
She’s one of them.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:29 pm to 4cubbies
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JimEverett said that she should receive a harsher sentence because she was a judge at the time of the crime. That's the part I'm disputing.
She violated the trust of the public by taking the law into her own hands.
She’s supposed to be like Caesar’s wife.
Or Pompeia’s anyway.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:32 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you think that my post connecting this to Milgram's experiment was totally off-base and out of left field? After reading Big Scrub's post, I'm trying to figure out if I'm really some sort of maverick thinker or if people are just trying to be mean to me
I do not know the exact context of why you posted it. Were you happy that a judge ruled that another judge is going to have to serve time or were you happy that the judge broke law? Really it does not matter in respect to the question you asked.
In both instances above I can see that someone may have broke ranks with percieved authority
Usually judges do not go harshly on other judges for fear of appearance to other judges
Usually judges abid by law for fear of other judges and lawmakers
So no, it really doesn't matter why you made the statement, I can see the statement was at least around the base.
Civility dictates that clarification of your statement would have been needed prior to any meaness towards you.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:44 pm to UtahCajun
quote:And looking under the hood, you get similar caveats as you do to Milgram which essentially completely re-cast the results.
You do realize the experiments were replicated by Jerry M Burger in 2006 and the results were similar.
Burger's replication results results
I would say that 79% fully complying to the max capacity of the generator is not the results you are saying were found.
To give one example, Milgram's shock machine went to 450 volts - but he designated 150 volts as the "point of no return", by which he meant 80% of participants that breached 150 would go on to administer the full 450.
Burger gamed this by ending his experiment at 150. He then conflated that with "willingness to administer lethal shock", which it, of course, was not.
There are many other similar parameters.
The bottom line is that there is no real evidence - and certainly not provided by Milgram - that the average Joe would be willing to kill his fellow man simply because he was directed to.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:47 pm to 4cubbies
quote:As you should be well aware of, ignorance is not a legal defense. Certainly you can connect the dots that - in a less crazy age - one might reasonably assume that an actual officer of the law would be better acquainted with the law than most.
You’re insinuating that judges possess special knowledge about the obligation to obey federal agents.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:48 pm to shoelessjoe
quote:Why should extremely straighforward prosecutions of obvious crimes be called "proving a point"?
Using a low level leftist judge to prove a point
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:49 pm to 4cubbies
quote:She did.
The issue is whether she violated the law,
quote:What word salad is this? She owes exactly as much "deference" the the laws of the land as every other citizen, including you.
not whether judges owe greater deference to ICE than ordinary citizens.
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