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re: Federal Judge UPHOLDS FELONY CONVICTION of Milwaukee County Judge Hannah Dugan!

Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:09 pm to
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I do not know the exact context of why you posted it. Were you happy that a judge ruled that another judge is going to have to serve time or were you happy that the judge broke law? Really it does not matter in respect to the question you asked.



I honestly hadn't even considered my reaction to the actual ruling. I see this as a cause and effect scenario: judge broke the law, was charged and convicted. Another judge upheld the conviction.

The immigration issue is often viewed through a moral lens - by both sides. I thought it was noteworthy that the convicted judge jeopardized her employment and social standing to stick to her principles/morals when she defied authority and committed the offense for which she was convicted.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:11 pm to
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What word salad is this? She owes exactly as much "deference" the the laws of the land as every other citizen, including you.



The poster claimed that the judge should receive a harsher penalty than an average citizen because she's a judge. That's what I responded to.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:25 pm to
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The poster claimed that the judge should receive a harsher penalty than an average citizen because she's a judge. That's what I responded to.
That's a defensible position. Are you under the impression that sentencing is done in a convict-agnostic fashion in general?

For one, I'm guessing the convict in this case hasn't shown even the slightest remorse for her crime. That alone should suggest a harsher penalty is appropriate.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:38 pm to
Why are you intent on being so hostile? Good grief.

You're now speculating about the convicted judge's remorse or lack thereof to justify advocating for a harsh sentence.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:10 pm to
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Why are you intent on being so hostile? Good grief.
Hostile? Nah. I'm using a tone appropriate to your original posted nonsense.

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You're now speculating about the convicted judge's remorse or lack thereof to justify advocating for a harsh sentence.
Am I speculating? Have you seen any evidence of anything but recalcitrance on her part?

But that's just one example. It's a perfectly defensible sentencing allowance to note a judge's position.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:12 pm to
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. I thought it was noteworthy that the convicted judge jeopardized her employment and social standing to stick to her principles/morals


Not sure what you mean by "morals" when you are endorsing dangerous criminal activity.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61765 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:46 pm to
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Am I speculating? Have you seen any evidence of anything but recalcitrance on her part?

This is what you posted:

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I'm guessing the convict in this case hasn't shown even the slightest remorse for her crime.


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It's a perfectly defensible sentencing allowance to note a judge's position.
A judge who commits this crime should be punished the same as any ordinary citizen who commits the same crime, absent additional aggravating conduct.

I understand why someone would argue that a judge should be held to a higher standard, I just disagree.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 3:00 pm to
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A judge who commits this crime should be punished the same as any ordinary citizen who commits the same crime, absent additional aggravating conduct.
Sentencing can, should and does take into account specifics pertaining to an individual convict. I would expect the convict in this case to have her specifics taken into account.

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absent additional aggravating conduct.
But we know there is very likely to be "additional aggravating conduct" in the instance of this particular convict:

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Abuse of a Position of Trust: Utilizing a professional, official, or familial status to facilitate the crime


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Conduct Post-Arrest: Showing a complete lack of remorse


The first criterion I listed happened with virtual certainty - I would argue it possibly happened BECAUSE she was a judge.

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I understand why someone would argue that a judge should be held to a higher standard, I just disagree.
Don't think of it as a higher standard. Rather, use your own words of "additional aggravating conduct".

That is to say, a random citizen helping an illegal alien to escape LE is NOT as bad as a sitting judge doing the same thing...in her place of legal business.

If a police officer committed a criminal act (like the criminally convicted person in question here) it seems highly unlikely you would be advocating for such obtuse neutrality.
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