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re: Federal Judge Decrees Trump Must Reunify Families
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:35 am to bhtigerfan
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:35 am to bhtigerfan
Injunctive relief is an extraordinary remedy (this is one of the first things you learn in Contracts or Remedies) and is a steep hill to climb. It is absolutely being used in a cavalier manner by some District Courts more often over the past couple years, especially in what can be considered political cases.
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:37 am to AUstar
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CNN is calling it a "major rebuke" of Trump.
Because Trump is enforcing a Clinton era policy?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:38 am to celltech1981
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yeah, lets disbar all judges we disagree with. it will probably end up going to the supreme court. the judicial system is one of the checks/balances. you may not always like what they decide but it's an important part of the republic
You know damn well these judges are super biased and acting like activists trying to obstruct/resist Rightwing policy.
They are abusing their powers out of pure partisanship. And you can’t deny this with a straight face and you know it.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:45 am to BeefDawg
yeah judges are super biased but you can't tell me with a straight face that you would have a problem if one was biased towards the right.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:53 am to celltech1981
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yeah judges are super biased but you can't tell me with a straight face that you would have a problem if one was biased towards the right.
The hell I can’t. You don’t know me and I’ve said nothing to show I’d be okay with abuse of power in any form.
You certainly did though.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:58 am to BeefDawg
lay out how the judges interpretation is an abuse of power? all i said is not to call for disbarring based on a ruling. what's his logic behind it? it could very well stand up in the supreme court
and i apologize for my assumption. you are correct, i know nothing about where you stand on abuse of power
and i apologize for my assumption. you are correct, i know nothing about where you stand on abuse of power
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 7:00 am
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:00 am to BeefDawg
More info on the judge's ruling. Turns out he is a Dubya appointee. The ACLU sued which is the reason this judge got involved. Check this out:
Bitch came all the way from Brazil. How many countries did she have to travel through? And yet every one of these countries let her pass through no questions asked? Some frickery is going on.
Anyway, the judge declared that separating families is unconstitutional (lol).
In other words, we all have a right in the Constitution to never be separated from our kids, even if we're under arrest. It's our right, guys. Time to rob that bank (just bring your kids with you).
Would love to see the passage in the Constitution that states "no family shall ever be separated."
Oh and there's this:
That's what this is really about: These activist judges want open borders with no rules or laws getting in the way. Their goal is to turn America into Mexico North. Want to come to America? Why, jump that border today! Just make sure you have kids with you and that you promise to vote Democrat.
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Sabraw, an appointee of President George W. Bush, acted in response to an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit filed in February over the alleged separation of an asylum-seeker from the Democratic Republic of the Congo from her 7-year-old child. They were reunited in March, but the ACLU added another plaintiff: a Brazilian woman who was separated from her 14-year-old son while she was prosecuted for crossing the border from Mexico illegally
Bitch came all the way from Brazil. How many countries did she have to travel through? And yet every one of these countries let her pass through no questions asked? Some frickery is going on.
Anyway, the judge declared that separating families is unconstitutional (lol).
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“The right to family integrity still applies here,” the judge wrote. “The context of the family separation practice at issue here, namely an international border, does not render the practice constitutional, nor does it shield the practice from judicial review.”
In other words, we all have a right in the Constitution to never be separated from our kids, even if we're under arrest. It's our right, guys. Time to rob that bank (just bring your kids with you).
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In his decision ordering family reunification, Sabraw said the Trump administration policy intruded on a constitutional due process right not to have one’s family arbitrarily separated
Would love to see the passage in the Constitution that states "no family shall ever be separated."
Oh and there's this:
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The preliminary injunction also blocks deporting parents who have been separated from their children “unless the Class Member affirmatively, knowingly, and voluntarily declines to be reunited with the child prior to the Class Member’s deportation, or there is a determination that the parent is unfit or presents a danger to the child.”
That's what this is really about: These activist judges want open borders with no rules or laws getting in the way. Their goal is to turn America into Mexico North. Want to come to America? Why, jump that border today! Just make sure you have kids with you and that you promise to vote Democrat.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:01 am to celltech1981
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it could very well stand up in the supreme court
Thats not the test for injunctive relief.
Substantial likelihood of prevailing on the merits =/= dubious claim that might fly in SCOTUS.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:19 am to Pelican fan99
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It’s time to start getting rid of these retard judges who think it’s their responsibility to do stuff like this
Setup a tent city in their front AND back yards, literally, and house these detainee families there. Judge will make another ruling within 24 hours guaranteed.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:35 am to AUstar
So what is the answer? We separated these kids from their guardians. We have the kids. Some if not most of their parents are 1000s of miles away now without the means to trek back to get their kids. Do we imprison them for life, adopt them out or just shoot them humanely?
I have a modest proposal.....we build a nice abattoir just south of the border...decorate it like a children’s hospital so the cattle...errr kids aren’t too jumpy....then we give those crossing the border illegally the option of working at the abattoir and eventually gaining citizenship ( the Nazis had brothels in the camps....the women were enticed to work their with promises of release from the camp after a period of time...and released they were, right into a grave). We never have to follow through with citizenship, there’s always ways out of a contract. So we now have a facility, a workforce and a fresh supply of meat. At least part of the problem with poverty is always hunger...so we butcher the children and ship the meat to their home nation.....a product of Guatemala or El Salvador..at least those in places so desperate that they will travel 1000s of miles to better their lot in life would have some affordable protein in their bellies before they begin their trek......
I have a modest proposal.....we build a nice abattoir just south of the border...decorate it like a children’s hospital so the cattle...errr kids aren’t too jumpy....then we give those crossing the border illegally the option of working at the abattoir and eventually gaining citizenship ( the Nazis had brothels in the camps....the women were enticed to work their with promises of release from the camp after a period of time...and released they were, right into a grave). We never have to follow through with citizenship, there’s always ways out of a contract. So we now have a facility, a workforce and a fresh supply of meat. At least part of the problem with poverty is always hunger...so we butcher the children and ship the meat to their home nation.....a product of Guatemala or El Salvador..at least those in places so desperate that they will travel 1000s of miles to better their lot in life would have some affordable protein in their bellies before they begin their trek......
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:37 am to germandawg
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without the means to trek back to get their kids
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:44 am to AUstar
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All I know is a Cali judge has ruled that people must be unified at border. CNN is calling it a "major rebuke" of Trump.
This is the utter bullshite which Justice Thomas addressed. These judges flying off the handle need to be impeached and lose their pensions for this idiocy.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:46 am to the808bass
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These judges flying off the handle need to be impeached and lose their pensions for this idiocy.
It does have an overtone of little Johnny telling daddy "frick you". That never ends well. Hopefully this won't either for this activist judge.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:56 am to AUstar
A district court judge in California cannot overrule the 9 Circuit. And how is it a rebuke of Trump? Liberals are weird.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 7:57 am to Jbird
I say we ship all these fricking kids over to Kim as a gesture of good will for signing our nuclear treaty. He can use them however he sees fit. From my understanding they should be pretty good farmers and carpenters. NK may need both here shortly, once their economy bounces back after US/NK treaty takes effects.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:00 am to TBoy
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That is an interesting statement by Thomas because there is no doubt that under Article III the Supreme Court has the power to rule on the nationwide legality of executive policy or legislative action. The Article III power has been conferred upon the district courts. How could an Article III j
You might rival texridder for most consistently wrong. Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:01 am to BBONDS25
Judges offering decrees? What country is this?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:13 am to germandawg
We seperated them? 
We have no obligation to these people. They entered illegally.
They are subject to our laws the same as you are subject to
Mexico’s laws when you cross their border.
Don’t like the law? Elect better lawmakers.
We have no obligation to these people. They entered illegally.
They are subject to our laws the same as you are subject to
Mexico’s laws when you cross their border.
Don’t like the law? Elect better lawmakers.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:52 am to celltech1981
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lay out how the judges interpretation is an abuse of power? all i said is not to call for disbarring based on a ruling.
If his ruling is not constitutional and simple political bias, which it is, then he should be disbarred. That's the whole point of the judiciary. To interpret the constitution, not to make politically biased rulings because you don't like the POTUS. If that's how our judiciary will work, then the country descends into anarchy, and ANY judge, can rule however the frick he wants, regardless of whether or not it is constitutional.
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it could very well stand up in the supreme court
It can't and it won't. And these activist judges need to be removed.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:58 am to germandawg
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We separated these kids from their guardians.
Do we not separate native criminals from their children?
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Some if not most of their parents are 1000s of miles away now without the means to trek back to get their kids.
Well that's an awfully big assumption.
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Do we imprison them for life, adopt them out or just shoot them humanely?
Or deport them? Why are you libs so obsessed with murdering children?
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I have a modest proposal.
Well now you're just being a silly person. How about, we enforce our immigration laws. The same laws that you were silent about during the Obama era. Do you realize how big of a hypocrite you are?
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