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Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:21 pm to Revelator
Trump is as guilty as his ex lawyer.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:22 pm to MoarKilometers
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took barely 1 page to devolve into whataboutism... classic.
it is precident not whataboutism.
but muh bad orange man...
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:22 pm to Jjdoc
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Lmao that you think that matters.
It does if you're going to say Obama "paid" him.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:38 pm to Jjdoc
Von Spakovsky's opinion is next to worthless.
He was a recess appointment to the FEC by Bush but was never confirmed and withdrew his nomination.
He was a member of Trump's Voter fraud commission. An email he wrote to AG Sessions advocated that no democrats or moderate Republicans should be appointed to the voter commission saying that Trump’s commission would be an “abject failure” if it were to include Democrats or “mainstream Republican officials and/or academics.”
Von Spakovsky testified as an expert witness this year in Fish v. Kobach, a voting right case in Kansas. US District Court Judge Julie A. Robinson, a George W. Bush appointee, ruled that von Spakovsky's claims of widespread voter fraud were not in fact found to be backed up with provable researched cases. Robinson said, "While von Spakovsky's lack of academic background is not fatal to his credibility, his clear agenda and misleading statements, render his opinions unpersuasive."
Relying Von Spakovsky's "opinion" on Trump's campaign finance law situation is just a fool's errand.
He was a recess appointment to the FEC by Bush but was never confirmed and withdrew his nomination.
He was a member of Trump's Voter fraud commission. An email he wrote to AG Sessions advocated that no democrats or moderate Republicans should be appointed to the voter commission saying that Trump’s commission would be an “abject failure” if it were to include Democrats or “mainstream Republican officials and/or academics.”
Von Spakovsky testified as an expert witness this year in Fish v. Kobach, a voting right case in Kansas. US District Court Judge Julie A. Robinson, a George W. Bush appointee, ruled that von Spakovsky's claims of widespread voter fraud were not in fact found to be backed up with provable researched cases. Robinson said, "While von Spakovsky's lack of academic background is not fatal to his credibility, his clear agenda and misleading statements, render his opinions unpersuasive."
Relying Von Spakovsky's "opinion" on Trump's campaign finance law situation is just a fool's errand.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:39 pm to Jjdoc
First, Obama shouldn’t have offered him money, that’s typical sleezy politician shite and apparently Trumps no different.
That said, and I’m sure you won’t admit it, but there is a difference between “The press knows we’re friends and that makes me look bad, so why don’t you take this money and stay out of the spotlight for a while” (in exchange for not getting his speaking engagement payments)
Vs,
“Hey pornstar, I’m going to pay you to not tell everyone that I fricked you while my wife just had our newborn baby.”
Yes, both offered (one paid) money, but one is way worse than the other. Even if neither are illegal, Trumps a fricking awful person .
But I know, no fricks given.
That said, and I’m sure you won’t admit it, but there is a difference between “The press knows we’re friends and that makes me look bad, so why don’t you take this money and stay out of the spotlight for a while” (in exchange for not getting his speaking engagement payments)
Vs,
“Hey pornstar, I’m going to pay you to not tell everyone that I fricked you while my wife just had our newborn baby.”
Yes, both offered (one paid) money, but one is way worse than the other. Even if neither are illegal, Trumps a fricking awful person .
But I know, no fricks given.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You’re being intentionally obtuse. Campaign finance laws don’t change whether there is a campaign going on or not. The law is the law.
They certainly change if the expense is for personal reasons or to influence an election. And it’s pretty important that prosecutors couldn’t prove Edwards knew he was spending campaign money on his cover up. Good luck to Trump on that front.
Maybe you should stop being intentionally obtuse.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:52 pm to Jjdoc
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He used camping funds. Period.
Prosecutors couldn’t prove that he knew he was using campaign funds or that the money was spent for campaign purposes.
Comparing the Edwards case to Trump is stupid
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:58 pm to PDXDawg
You are missing the point. A "crime" is not dependent upon who the person is nor the party they are affiliated with. It has no knowledge of what person is better than or worse than the other.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:01 pm to VOLhalla
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Prosecutors couldn’t prove that he knew he was using campaign funds or that the money was spent for campaign purposes.
Lmao!
At some point, you will unleash hell on our system and it will be used against your side.
Sooner than later.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:46 pm to Jjdoc
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A peon that's not capable of rational.
Capable of rational what?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:13 am to Jjdoc
Inmates at Angola says they broke no law also
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:40 am to dram
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Inmates at Angola says they broke no law also
Yeah, well there's a reason they are inmates isn't there? Has Trump been convicted? Except for every lib and msm personality.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:44 am to VOLhalla
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And it’s pretty important that prosecutors couldn’t prove Edwards knew he was spending campaign money on his cover up. Good luck to Trump on that front.
So did Trump tell Cohen and Pecker to use campaign contributions to pay off those women? Is it illegal to pay someone for a NDA?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:15 am to Jjdoc
quote:Stop the presses! Tucker Carlson‘s website found an expert to say that Trump did nothing wrong, to counter other experts to assert the opposite.
Does it change the meaning? Either he is an expert or not. Considering his former position I would say he is.
This guy may well be 100% correct. Only time will tell. But it would be substantially more persuasive if it did not come from a website founded by a guy whose lips are permanently stained orange from all the time they spend wrapped around Trump‘s penis.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:40 am to AggieHank86
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This guy may well be 100% correct. Only time will tell.
Hank, since you are a lawyer, doesn't it make you wonder, if Trump broke campaign finance law, why the FEC hasn't weighed in on it?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:47 am to Lg
Hank is a fraud.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:53 am to VOLhalla
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They certainly change if the expense is for personal reasons or to influence an election. And it’s pretty important that prosecutors couldn’t prove Edwards knew he was spending campaign money on his cover up. Good luck to Trump on that front.
Maybe you should stop being intentionally obtuse.
There is no campaign going on right now. So you are saying that Trump can use campaign funds for any purpose?
The truth is that the laws are the way they are, because these campaigns never end. They are always campaigning. And even when they eventually stop, those funds can be used for other candidates.
So, there is NO stipulation in the law for whether a campaign is ongoing or not for the laws to be void.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:53 am to Lg
quote:IF there is a violation, it seems to be both minor and highly technical. This is partisan bickering.
Hank, since you are a lawyer, doesn't it make you wonder, if Trump broke campaign finance law, why the FEC hasn't weighed in on it?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:55 am to AggieHank86
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This guy may well be 100% correct. Only time will tell
Open borders hank
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