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re: FDA approval for Pfizer vax only confirms what we already suspected
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:25 pm to The Levee
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:25 pm to The Levee
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I’ve voted Republican in every election I’ve voted in
They think anyone who does not believe their stupid fricking conspiracies is a liberal.
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:25 pm to Grinder
Grinder
You finally getting the gender elective surgery?
Name checks out.
quote:
When I arrived at the hospital this morning
You finally getting the gender elective surgery?
Name checks out.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:26 pm to mouton
quote:Is it a conspiracy that as few as 0.25% of those infected die?
They think anyone who does not believe their stupid fricking conspiracies is a liberal.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:28 pm to cadillacattack
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excerpt:
"The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.
Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose"
I read this earlier this morning.
Under the assumption that the vaccine saves lives, they will end up killing way more as a result of that decision.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:28 pm to Grinder
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When I arrived at the hospital this morning, 22 COVID patients were in the ED waiting to be admitted.
Whoa. Sounds like the plague. What’s your normal ED to admission in hours?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:31 pm to moneyg
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Under the assumption that the vaccine saves lives, they will end up killing way more as a result of that decision.
That’s also under the assumption that there is going to be some long term fatal side effects.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:32 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Most interesting to me is how the pro-vax crowd would, if allowed, force all Americans to have the shot.
I’m only suggesting it and calling you dumb if you get sick. That’s all. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:36 pm to the808bass
Almost every elected conservative in this country is vaccinated. Except people like clay Higgins (an actual idiot)
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:38 pm to The Levee
quote:Super. My body, my choice. Why don't you like that? What is it about you that makes you want to be involved in other people's lives?
I’m only suggesting it and calling you dumb if you get sick. That’s all. Stop putting words in my mouth.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:40 pm to The Levee
Good. One of my daughters is vaccinated. One of my daughters isn’t. My parents got vaccinated to make my sister more comfortable at her wedding. I will likely get uselessly vaccinated in the next couple of months because of my job. Everyone makes different calculations. That’s what makes America great.
Dumbass equivalencies like yours don’t.
Dumbass equivalencies like yours don’t.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:40 pm to The Levee
quote:Ah, so you're saying that because someone is a member of one political party they should be lockstep with all aspects of that party's leadership.
Almost every elected conservative in this country is vaccinated. Except people like clay Higgins (an actual idiot)
Sounds pretty leftist to me...
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:42 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Super. My body, my choice. Why don't you like that? What is it about you that makes you want to be involved in other people's lives?
I’m just saying you’re dumb. That’s all. Don’t clog my local ER please.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:43 pm to the808bass
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I will likely get uselessly vaccinated in the next couple of months because of my job
Lol ok
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:43 pm to The Levee
quote:Why does personal choice trigger you?
I’m just saying you’re dumb. That’s all. Don’t clog my local ER please.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:44 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Ah, so you're saying that because someone is a member of one political party they should be lockstep with all aspects of that party's leadership.
Sounds pretty leftist to me...
No just pointing out that conservatives are mostly vaccinated. Especially the “important” ones. You’re out on your own.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:45 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Why does personal choice trigger you?
It doesn’t trigger me. I don’t get triggered. I just call out dumb when I see it.
I will be upset if my son breaks his arm in the next few weeks and he has to sit in the waiting room for 24 hours before being seen.
It’s called foresight and thinking of someone other than yourself. Try it.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:46 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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So you are claiming Pfizer and Moderna manipulated the trials for their COVID vaccines?
Clearly you have a reading comprehension challenge.
What I stated is that they deliberately spiked thier clinical trials by unblinding those in the control group. Contrary to what one poster indicated earlier, that is highly uncommon and goes against scientific methodology .... and ethics has NOTHING to do with it.
In any clinical trials, the rules are established prior to initiating the study. In this case, Pfizer and Moderna altered those rules following the Emergency Approval, but prior to the FDA Approval .... now there must be a reason for purposefully deviating from established clinical protocol, and deviating from the publish trial protocol prior to the completion of the study. What was that reason?
It's no secret that Big Pharma traditionally funds these clinical trials, but historically that has been the sole role they played, funding not influencing.
Destroying the control group changes that dynamic. It directly influences the outcome.
There are simply too many unknowns right now with coronavirus. There’s no one left within the control group, of a statistically valid value, to give an adequate comparison of outcomes for vaccinated lot numbers -vs- non-vaccinated "plecebo" subjects.
Without a control group, there is no way for the efficacy, effectiveness or safety of the vaccine itself to be measured.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:47 pm to the808bass
That has nothing to do with your awful takes and being a loon.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:47 pm to The Levee
You’ve got to be two weeks behind on your care plan documentation. You don’t want to get written up again.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:50 pm to The Levee
quote:Seems like you're into following your daddies. Good for you.
No just pointing out that conservatives are mostly vaccinated. Especially the “important” ones. You’re out on your own.
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