re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality

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The two are not even the same quality of car. If BMW jacks up its price, you don't think their direct competitors like Audi or Benz will try to under cut them.

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COmpletely off topic , but in point of fact KIa > BMW in terms of quality the last 5 years. And it really isn't even close.

People don't buy BMWs for their advantage in quality.

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For the casual home user. If you play video games or stream live high resolution video I am skeptical.

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What are you basing this on? We already do this with wifi and mobile, the technology is just going to improve.


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It's already being tested on a limited basis

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Data caps are bullshite

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Socialist!

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When Verizon is hitting 1g per second with 5G you don't think this will be direct competition

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Not when you are paying much, much more per gigabyte and hit your data cap that begins to throttle you to a crawl after 20-50 gigs. Or a couple days of heavy activity like you might on a home or business connection. Let’s keep in mind the major carrier networks like Verizon are in the cable and fiber internet business. That the cellular space is also overwhelmingly dominated by an oligopoly. Doesn’t do much for a rural community where only Comcast and Verizon are your options and other carriers aren’t available, except exorbitantly expensive satellite companies you can’t afford with your needs.

Are they viable market competitors? In the broadest sense sure, kinda, are they viable substitutes which is in part what drives competitive marketplaces? Not really. As of right now pure wireless internet is a complimentary product at best in major markets, a default choice in niche markets like mountain towns in Colorado where alternatives are unavailable, and no one with a lick of sense that frequently uses the internet would be able to cut off their traditional connection for that arrangement anytime soon.

It is telling how much mental gymnastics and broadening of definitions it takes to call many of these things true competitors. It tells us how weak that argument is. Like claiming you can always smoke signal or Morse code instead of using a land line, so therefore ATT wasn’t a natural monopoly deserving of special regulatory status due to their rent-seeking behavior. They should of been allowed to require you to only use their phones, bought at a mark up only from them, since even though they were the only carrier in your area, you could always send a telegraph.

Some of you are either the most determined shills I’ve ever come across, or just really, really feel passionate about the ability for natural monopolies to regulatory capture and rent-seek. Everyone has their thing I guess, but that is a bizzare hobby.

The problem is a small number of providers have complete control. FCC regulation potentially just raises a barrier around them ensuring that a lot of power stays in a few hands

Regardless of the road being fraught with potential problems of FCC control you can guarantee rates go up. I’m sick of the government making everything more expensive.

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The thing people aren't getting is that a product doesn't have to COMPLETELY supplant another to cause market effects.

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Someone is arguing this? I certainly am not. Cord cuting certainty hasn’t (and won’t soon) totally supplant cable, yet the implications are huge.

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Hell. If you sell cool widgets and I come to market with semi-cool ones and take 20% of your market, it will STILL result in you adjusting to deal with my encroachment into your market.

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And solar panels are encroaching on the grid. I’m aware that there is some competition in existence to traditional ISPs. For most consumers needs, that competition doesn’t meet their needs yet. Similarly solar panels exist for certain people and meet their needs. The percentage forthose will grow in the coming years, just like wireless internet will grow in coming years.

It just doesn’t change my point. Will those competitors advance to a degree

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Everything I read says it's our immediate future

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What are you considering immediate future?

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Why should they let one branch compete with the other?

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I don’t mecessarily disagree with you about data caps.

I do think the statement is funny though. I think the issue is “why should they let one branch compete with the other (while also making it near impossible for other people to compete with the other branch too)?”

That is the problem I have here.

So your thinking is that within 10 years are less technology will have replaced wired internet for everyone except certain niche commercial/government uses?