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FBI's entrapment of Gen. Flynn was despicable

Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:15 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:15 pm
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As this site’s resident defender of special counsel Robert Mueller, I am obligated to insist that the investigators themselves uphold the same standards they would apply to others. Without excusing Flynn’s lies to investigators, a fair-minded observer can call foul on an obviously unfair, and perhaps unlawful, perjury trap.

Federal district judge Emmet Sullivan likewise seems quite perturbed by the latest information about the Flynn case. With Flynn’s sentencing imminent, Sullivan suddenly ordered prosecutors to produce any existent memoranda regarding their conduct of the interview in which Flynn lied.

And for good reason. The investigators’ treatment of Flynn, as described in a memo filed with the court by Flynn’s lawyers, looks like a textbook case of unethical entrapment.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16726 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:20 pm to
Dershowitz stated this was a gross misuse of FBI resources.

He said these interviews are supposed to be used to obtain new information by asking questions that they don’t have the answer to.

Instead- the FBI showed up transcripts and asked questions they already knew.

He said that I s the definition of a perjury trap,

Remember - they were sent by Comey. Tells you about his intent.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:23 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:21 pm to
What part was the trap? Telling him that if he wanted to bring a lawyer, they would have to bring a lawyer, too?

The guy was career military intelligence

There's no excuse for him not knowing what the score was when the FBI said they were sending agents over to ask him some questions

His arrogance was his downfall
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48904 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:23 pm to
Pretty simple they went in with someone they had transcripts of, laid a perjury trap and then threatened him with bankruptcy and his children with criminal charges so they could get a scalp.

This to a decorated veteran and service member. We should hang these MFERS
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16726 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:23 pm to
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What part was the trap?


Read my post right above yours. If Dershowitz is saying it was a misuse of FBI resources.....
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:24 pm to
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Remember - they were sent by Comey. Tells you about his intent.



Comey was bragging abut how he wouldn't have gotten away with this in a more organized administration as the newly sworn in Trump admin was just finding their sea legs, settling into their new positions and responsibilities and thus they were able to sneak past the White House counsel and higher ups in the admin to be able to talk to Flynn.

If Don McGahn, the new white house counsel, knew about the meeting, he would've never allowed it to happen and most certainly not without an attorney present for Flynn.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48904 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:24 pm to
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JuiceTerry



These are the liberals of 2018, totalitarians that Beria would be proud of.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11808 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:25 pm to
You still identifying as a libertarian baw?
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19259 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:25 pm to
and hanging with trump caused his downfall as well.Folks need to take notes before they pledge allegiance to him..
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:27 pm to
I couldn't care less what Dershowitz says about anything

Any idiot off the street knows that you don't sit down with the FBI without a lawyer and answer their questions at all

Let alone lie to them

Hubris
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:29 pm to
FBI agents who conducted his interview signed 302s saying Flynn was truthful in his testimony and the 302s were later adjusted to get him on a process charge of lying to investigagors meanwhile Clinton brings 8 lawyers to an interview , knowingly avoided federal record request, lies to the investigators and not even an attempt to take her to court. It’s weaponized justice - thanks Obama.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:29 pm to
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You still identifying as a libertarian baw?

Why? Do libertarians not believe in personal responsibility anymore?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36019 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:30 pm to
So disguising a custodial investigation as a mere chit chat is acceptable to you? We aren't much different than the Russians we're so afraid of.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 5:31 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:30 pm to
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FBI agents who conducted his interview signed 302s saying Flynn was truthful in his testimony
You're lying as bad as Flynn
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:32 pm to
Oh look...the POS troll at it again. Go frick yourself with this lawyer BS. Maybe they should have been a little more upfront on their dirty little scheme...oh wait. You are such a loser...bet you'd love to stroke Strzok. Guarantee you donated to his gofundme account. Probably McCabe's too. Such honorable men. Your kind of scum.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:32 pm to
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His arrogance was his downfall



You're confusing arrogance with naivety and considering the FBI agents as allies instead of what they really were and that's political hacks in search of a scalp against the Trump admin.

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JuiceTerry


I don't say this very often but you're honestly a sick piece of shite.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:35 pm to
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So disguising a custodial investigation as a mere chit chat is acceptable to you?
Believing that the FBI sends agents out to ask you questions is a chit chat is either one of two things: the height of stupidity or the smug arrogance of a guy who also lies to face of the Vice President of the United States
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:36 pm to
Hmm

Believe that shite if you want to but the facts are documented. Both agents reported Flynn as truthful. The 302s that we’re put forth were 7months after the fact. Also, Flynn’s phones being tapped was another gross miscarriage of justice. Sickining what you scumbag pieces of shite support.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20412 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:36 pm to
How fricking stupid is this assessment.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 5:38 pm to
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I don't say this very often but you're honestly a sick piece of shite.


Can confirm.
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