- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: FBI manipulated crime stats under Biden
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:12 am to gaetti15
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:12 am to gaetti15
quote:
If the cities misreporting or not reporting were heavy hitters...yeah could totally reverse a trend.
How, exactly?
The FBI analysis relied on modeling for the data they didn't receive. They didn't just put 0s
1
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:13 am to SlayTime
quote:
I’ve had 2 exchanges with him where no rules were broken and I got the stop sign and post quality review warning.
I imagine the stop sign (deleted posts) deals more with your post content and racism inherent to it.
The "post quality" response means you double posted, FWIW.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:14 am to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
resulting in not a decrease but an increase
But the city-level data (for last year at least, which is when this argument started), shows a decrease. And the FBI analysis didn't include those decreases.
And somehow this is hiding this mythological increase in data.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:32 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
How, exactly?
The FBI analysis relied on modeling for the data they didn't receive. They didn't just put 0s
If your model is susceptible to 6+% adjustments, you shouldn't tout a 1.7% change YOY.
This is common sense.
If your model is susceptible to 6+% adjustments, the modeled data that resulted in that miss was extremely poor.
It's highly likely that this was intentional.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:36 am to moneyg
There are two different discussions going on.
What you're describing is their revision of the total data, from an earlier year, to be fully specific. I never commented on this other than to say that you expect revisions on analyses this large.
The second discussion is about their modeling of data that cities did not report. This is not the same data between the two discussions, which is the conflation I keep trying to point out in this thread. This is the part where I'm talking about the modeling and how you can ignore the modeling and go to the city-specific data to look at the actual numbers from the cities.
OP is rhetorically dishonest and conflating 2 completely separate discussions. Or I've put in a lot of focuses on the second one. I've even literally posted the city specific data for various cities that were included in the non-reporting population. These cities all reported massive decreases in crime, some more than what the FBI modeled for them, and I keep asking how this is proof that crime is actually increasing, and people aren't doing a very good job of answering that question
*ETA: even the years are different. Crime was going up, generally, in 2022. It was part of the post-Covid spike.
What you're describing is their revision of the total data, from an earlier year, to be fully specific. I never commented on this other than to say that you expect revisions on analyses this large.
The second discussion is about their modeling of data that cities did not report. This is not the same data between the two discussions, which is the conflation I keep trying to point out in this thread. This is the part where I'm talking about the modeling and how you can ignore the modeling and go to the city-specific data to look at the actual numbers from the cities.
OP is rhetorically dishonest and conflating 2 completely separate discussions. Or I've put in a lot of focuses on the second one. I've even literally posted the city specific data for various cities that were included in the non-reporting population. These cities all reported massive decreases in crime, some more than what the FBI modeled for them, and I keep asking how this is proof that crime is actually increasing, and people aren't doing a very good job of answering that question
*ETA: even the years are different. Crime was going up, generally, in 2022. It was part of the post-Covid spike.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 6:40 am
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Like clockwork, flies on shite, white on rice and cum in his arse....SFP is here to tell you where you're wrong.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:40 am to Houag80
Yes people make bad arguments conflating 2 unrelated discussions and spiking a proverbial football.
Why do you think I wouldn't point out their logical and rhetorical errors?
Why do you think I wouldn't point out their logical and rhetorical errors?
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:40 am to Jyrdis
quote:
Really makes you think how case load win/loss rate is.
does not matter, the rate that he gets paid for is 100%
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Because of your pompous and condescending asshat nature? Yes, I believe so.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:44 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I imagine the stop sign (deleted posts) deals more with your post content and racism inherent to it.
I actually tone my inherent racism down in exchanges with you and yet it still yields the most scrutiny from mods. You’re typically more calculated than responding to a thread about you but not directed at you. Coffee not kick in yet or me being over the target cause a morning rustle?
quote:
The "post quality" response means you double posted, FWIW.
It can mean that, but it doesn’t only mean that.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:45 am to texag7
Don't think they needed the Biden regime to manipulate stats. Remember the political riots in 2020? Portland specifically, that had over 120 straight nights of rioting and destruction? FBI stats showed none of those riots were left wing or even political. The only political riots in Portland was two or three right wing riots.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:54 am to texag7
The guy that does the crime stats, Jeff Asher is super liberal and will twist stats to fit his narrative. Have seen him do it many times. He actually lives in New Orleans and used to work in CIA.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 6:56 am
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Massive data collection has corrections. That's what the story you posted, says. That's a nothingburger and is part of the process.
Sfp is correct.
It's simple data correction. It happens all the time.
Everyone will agree with you.
Except it always skews in a way to make democrats look better.
Jobs reports? Always looked good but we're quietly reversed downward.
Inflation? Always corrected upwards for biden. But omg, they actually suddenly got corrected downward for Trump.
Economic growth? Up and corrected down for biden. Omg, Trump is down and corrected up.
Crime low for biden and corrected upwards.
Simple data correction. Nothing out of the ordinary. And you are correct.
The story is the data correction always initially makes dems look better and Republicans worse.
How many times were the jobs reports revised downward for biden?
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:01 am to texag7
Remember, when many districts do report, they do not classify by illegal or legal.
Thus when you take the small percentage of illegals who are reported, and divide it by the total universe.....voila illegals commit crime at a lower rate.
And we have heard that statement ad nauseum by the press.
Thus when you take the small percentage of illegals who are reported, and divide it by the total universe.....voila illegals commit crime at a lower rate.
And we have heard that statement ad nauseum by the press.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:03 am to texag7
The Biden administration wad dishonest and corrupt in every conceivable way
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:04 am to thetempleowl
quote:
Except it always skews in a way to make democrats look better.
It's currently following the post-Covid spike trend and decreasing under Trump, too.
Just as the great crime decrease spanned the Clinton, GWB, Obama, and Trump 1 admins. This is non-partisan stuff, and since the vast majority of crime isn't dealt with at the federal level, federal policy has minimal impact on our nationwide crime stats.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:06 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
It's currently following the post-Covid spike trend and decreasing under Trump, too.
Just as the great crime decrease spanned the Clinton, GWB, Obama, and Trump 1 admins. This is non-partisan stuff, and since the vast majority of crime isn't dealt with at the federal level, federal policy has minimal impact on our nationwide crime stats.
No one will be able to handle these very obvious truths
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:07 am to SlowFlowPro
So the city data is reliable......
quote:
In New York, the law enforcement agency with the largest jurisdiction that did not report 12 months of crime data to the FBI is the New York City Police Department, which did not report any data in 2022. According to the FBI, 8 million people live under its jurisdiction, which represent 43% of people living in the state.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:07 am to texag7
quote:
Posted by SlowFlowPro 8/12/25 at 12:09 pm to Rebel Naw. He's making a terrible argument and I already did this last year. Cities not reporting data to the FBI doesn't mean that the data is bad or would reverse the trend.
His takes almost always are disproven when all the dust settles.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:09 am to SlayTime
So it’s tattlers that bring on those warnings of post quality and stop signs? Seems every time I get those suddenly I don’t seen and additional new post for a while and actually considered it site issues. Thanks for sharing this
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News