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re: FBI agents did not have clearance to view the documents they confiscated
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:29 am to rebeloke
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:29 am to rebeloke
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I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you.
No you couldnt. I've had a TS SCI for 22 years and I take a polygraph every year to maintain it.
You are so full of shite you stink.
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Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:37 am to rebeloke
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The FBI is not involved in most cases with the highest levels of National Security. That would be other 3 letter agencies
So you have credible information that this actually involved high levels of national security?
Share it please.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:44 am to rebeloke
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1) If you had a high level TS clearance for TS ops you would have signed a NDA and you wouldn’t talk about your job.
You fricking idiot. Where did I disclose anything about my job? You don't have to swear secrecy of having a clearance.
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2) Just because you have a TS clearance for contracts doesn’t mean you know shite about National Security, the DoD or Dept of State.
You don't know what I do or don't know. So stfu.
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3) it sure as hell doesn’t mean you know jack shite about POTUS security clearances.
See response above.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:45 am to rebeloke
Rules do not apply when fingering Donald Trump and his cult. Am I doing it right.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:11 am to rebeloke
Clearance matters but need to know is more important..
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:15 am to imjustafatkid
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Honestly, this is the part that tells us they weren't looking for anything to do with nuclear weapons.
If they’d been looking for documentation pertaining to nuclear weapons, we’d have heard about it Tuesday.
Instead, it took these Mensas the better part of a week to concoct that story.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:31 am to DUKE87
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Clearance matters but need to know is more important..
100% correct. If you don't have need to know, your clearance is useless.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:33 am to Godfather1
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If they’d been looking for documentation pertaining to nuclear weapons, we’d have heard about it Tuesday.
Instead, it took these Mensas the better part of a week to concoct that story.
Yep. They'd have announced it during the raid.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:39 am to rebeloke
There's accurate information in this thread outweighed by bullshite. We have no idea what they were and weren't cleard for, but I'll say this:
Under normal circumstances it's highly, highly unlikely that 30-odd FBI agents would be read into a SAP just so they can execute a search warrant. We have people performing engineering and design work on programs that we can't get read in, because that's how compartmentalization works.
Person A: "I designed a 40 Watt plasma beam generator the size of a coffee cup"
Person B: "Cool, what's it used for?"
Person A: "Beats the hell out of me"
Now all that said, this administration does whatever the frick it wants. I wouldn't shock me a bit if, if all of this is even true, the president's office issued a "thou shalt read in 100 agents to cover our arse" edict. Leakage, like some agent seeing something sensitive that he's not cleared for, happens and they're debriefed and that's it. From a security standpoint that's far preferable to reading in a bunch of extra people just so they can raid a former president's house to sniff Melania's drawers.
Under normal circumstances it's highly, highly unlikely that 30-odd FBI agents would be read into a SAP just so they can execute a search warrant. We have people performing engineering and design work on programs that we can't get read in, because that's how compartmentalization works.
Person A: "I designed a 40 Watt plasma beam generator the size of a coffee cup"
Person B: "Cool, what's it used for?"
Person A: "Beats the hell out of me"
Now all that said, this administration does whatever the frick it wants. I wouldn't shock me a bit if, if all of this is even true, the president's office issued a "thou shalt read in 100 agents to cover our arse" edict. Leakage, like some agent seeing something sensitive that he's not cleared for, happens and they're debriefed and that's it. From a security standpoint that's far preferable to reading in a bunch of extra people just so they can raid a former president's house to sniff Melania's drawers.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:08 am to mahdragonz
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Someone ratted on trump and they knew exactly where and what they were looking for.
Why did it take them 9 hours to find it, then?
The eff bee eye got played, and now they're having to manufacture a cover story to save face. This is infuriating and pathetic. People are actually celebrating that we've become a banana republic. American people even moreso than ChiComs, Ruskies and goat rapers.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:19 am to BigMob
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Did local LEOs enter the premises and join in the search? Serious, neutral question. I hadn’t heard that
Doubtful. Generally, local law enforcement would only provide a uniformed presence, not assist in the search.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:48 am to Flats
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Under normal circumstances it's highly, highly unlikely that 30-odd FBI agents would be read into a SAP just so they can execute a search warrant. We have people performing engineering and design work on programs that we can't get read in, because that's how compartmentalization works.
Very true but an understatement.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:25 pm to rebeloke
I read in some reporting a couple of days ago that the boxes had been shipped to Trump's residence by the White House less than a year ago. Has this been dispelled?
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:56 pm to mahdragonz
If they knew where to go, why did it take 9 hours? You're a dumbass.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:42 am to Ace Midnight
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some FBI agents have TS/SCI clearance
All FBI agents have an SCI. It’s a requirement. You can be read in to something and not have access, exactly know, etc. I was read on to everything, literally, because of the systems I was on. The only thing I (a lot of people in the community) don’t have is access to the president. Other than that, if you have an SCI it is common practice to be read on to pretty much everything, job depending.
Example:
I am capable of doing TVAs. I don’t know dick about nuke shite, but I’ve been read on to that access because if I need to do a TVA at one of those facilities, I have to be read on. That doesn’t mean I would necessarily have access to schematics, etc.
Snowden was read on to everything because he was a sysadmin. He needed to be read on because of the systems he worked on. Doesn’t mean he knows dick about prism (he didn’t).
Don’t get me wrong, I think what they did is fricked up. It’s obviously politically motivated and it is weaponizing the FBI. This whole thing about classified documents is retarded, especially when (in office) the president has declassification authority, and it only further epitomizes the ridiculousness of it all.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/13/22 at 9:46 am to mahdragonz
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Someone ratted on trump and they knew exactly where and what they were looking for.
Damn. You're gullible. I bet you can't explain why they had so many agents, why they took so many hours, and why they were looking through his wife's clothes.
Explain how they knew exactly where and what they were looking for please.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:00 pm to touchdownjeebus
Given today's developments this shite reads like I can tell the future, lol.
The former president appears to have declassified the documents in question. The Democrats done fricked up again.
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This whole thing about classified documents is retarded, especially when (in office) the president has declassification authority, and it only further epitomizes the ridiculousness of it all.
The former president appears to have declassified the documents in question. The Democrats done fricked up again.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:02 pm to BigMob
quote:So they were double local?
local LEOs
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:43 pm to tigerfan 64
There was no mole. They made it up. That is why they will not release the full disclosure for the legal reason for the raid.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:44 pm to touchdownjeebus
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FBI agents have a TS/SCI clearance
got a link for that?
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