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re: FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump

Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147187 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

He was at my house during the time in question.

Now prove that he wasn't.

And I was there as well; we all played cards, drank Dixie beers and ate shrimp po boys.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39563 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:53 pm to
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It's been proven that a different Michael Cohen was in Prague. It hasn't been proven that the relevant Michael Cohen was or wasn't in Prague. I promise you that Prague is big enough to hold more than one Michael Cohen at a time.


By that standard of journalism, I'd like to see the evidence that you are not a goat raper. Until I see it, it's fair to assume you are one, mr goat raper.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:54 pm to


You sound awfully upset about being called out as wrong. A CNN article providing evidence that a different Michael Cohen was in Prague isn't proof that Trump's lawyer wasn't also in Prague. You have no idea if he was there nor do I. You have no idea if he wasn't there nor do I.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64447 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:55 pm to
Wait...what?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:56 pm to
Since you don't know me you shouldn't assume I was nor that I wasn't a goat raper. You should admit you have no idea either way. The same with Michael Cohen and the supposed Prague trip.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18063 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:56 pm to
witnesses count as evidence.

LINK
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19089 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win,


Is this the same Trump that was repeatedly criticized for his lack of fundraising as well as for getting outspent in some cases 40:1? How is Russian money gonna put him over the top, when for months he was barely spending any money?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34985 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:58 pm to
Obama's FBI. After Friday, this bs comes to a screeching halt. And the REAL investigation of REAL criminality begins.

God only knows how many incriminating emails and documents are being obliterated at this very moment. It is their only play to survive and remain in the game. Of course...there is the issue of Russian hackery, turning up the dirty laundry.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:58 pm to
Jake will help you with the logistics of this thing

Wolf looks like he is going to cry to boot.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39563 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:02 pm to
You are essentially saying that because another dude named Michael Cohen was in Prague, it's reasonable to assume that Trump's lawyer may have been in Prague too because Prague is big.

This coming from an idiot who refused to acknowledge Clinton corruption in the face of mountains of evidence.

You are either a hack or a troll. Either way, you have far too much time in your hands.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:02 pm to
Absolutely it counts as evidence. I would point out that the dossier gives a timeframe for the Prague meeting as occurring in August of 2016 (FYI another's article actually extended this timeframe into September as well). So a witness saying he definitely was in California one day in August doesn't do much to prove he wasn't in Prague any other day that month. So it's shitty evidence.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

You are essentially saying that because another dude named Michael Cohen was in Prague, it's reasonable to assume that Trump's lawyer may have been in Prague too because Prague is big.


No I'm not. What I am saying is that evidence that another Michael Cohen was in Prague is completely irrelevant when trying to determine if Trump's lawyer was in Prague. There isn't some type of limit on the number of Michael Cohen's in Prague
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:08 pm to
Yeah, Wolf bought that they had evidence that Trump's attorney was in Prague. Turns out what they had was completely useless. It does nothing to prove or disprove the lawyer was there. Which some people have a problem wrapping their heads around.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39563 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:12 pm to
So the supposed eveidence ended up being the wrong MC, and frothy mouthed libs have yet to find real evidence that the MC is question was ever there. He denies it and the dossier that started the lie has been discredited.

Yet here you are, still talking about it as if it's real. It's like the fricking Salem with trial with you, which brings me back to the goat raper analogy. You are one because I say you are. Now the onus is on you to prove that you've never raped a goat.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16945 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Part of me hopes this isn't true.



After the last 8 years, you are entitled to a little hope. It was promised to you.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4455 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

he dossier that started the lie has been discredited.


No it hasn't been discredit. Nor has it been proven.

quote:

Yet here you are, still talking about it as if it's real.


I've never said a damn thing in the dossier is true. I got no idea. I just like to point out how illogical it is to say that since one Michael Cohen was in Prague then another could not be.

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It's like the fricking Salem with trial with you, which brings me back to the goat raper analogy. You are one because I say you are. Now the onus is on you to prove that you've never raped a goat.




Oh no!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

* Investigating since last spring


Which would predate the Steele memos.

quote:

* Investigators got FISA warrant in Oct.


Article cites prior BBC article but does not independently confirm this. I'd use caution here. I did not like the BBC's sourcing on this part.

The part that really gets my attention:

quote:

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said.


quote:

The working group is scrutinizing the activities of a few Americans who were affiliated with Trump’s campaign or his business empire and of multiple individuals from Russia and other former Soviet nations who had similar connections, the sources said.


Does this give some independent corroboration to the pension stuff that was in one of the Steele memos?







Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:21 pm to
Michael Cohen is a pretty common name.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

pay some email hackers

How much does it cost to send a phishing email?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:25 pm to
I think it's free to hit SEND, at least with the email services I've used.

Cheap enough to send at scale I imagine.
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