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re: Fauci, January warning on 2020 Flu season - "This is going to be a bad season" - Ah, Nope
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:18 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:18 pm to Korkstand
quote:
quote:
Deaths down this year according to the CDC
Flu
Pneumonia
Heart disease
Cancer
Diabetes
None of this is true.
Of course it's true. Everyone is inside not spreading germs.
Sheltering in place doesn't only prohibit the spread of the coronavirus
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:04 pm to shel311
quote:
So to confirm from what you're saying, it's that you don't have the death numbers for 2018 for the same time frame as you do for 2020, correct?
No. Not saying that at all.
1) All graphs I've seen indicate that the height of the 2017-18 flu season was January through April (and that is the about same parabolic shaped flu-season almost every year)
2) 80,000 deaths? 60,000 deaths? If you Google "CDC Director Redfield" and "80,000 deaths" you will find 100+ articles from Sept of 2018 quoting Redfield stating that there were 80,000 deaths in the 2017-18 flu season. Articles in Newsweek, Washington Post, NY Post, Chicago Tribune, etc all quote Redfield at 80,000 deaths. However, some time in the past 18 months or so, that number has been revised by the CDC to about 60,000 (I've seen several versions, but all around 60,000).
So, I have no problem with the CDC's estimate of 80K revised down to 60K for the 2017-18 flu season - the height of which is in January, February, March, and April (as to deaths resulting from the flu). Can't imagine why anyone else would have a problem either... unless it is a skyscreaming nit-picker who lives for gotcha moments (not referring to you, shel311). LOL
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:10 pm to Uhtred
quote:TIL heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are contagious.
Of course it's true. Everyone is inside not spreading germs.
Sheltering in place doesn't only prohibit the spread of the coronavirus
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:14 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Fauci is a self-aggrandizing rat b@stard. He has lied is arse off, misled an entire nation, undermined the legitimate prescriptions of generic drugs, and, like so many of his ilk (Cuomo, Fredo, Scaramucci, Avenetti, de Blasio, etc...) perpetuates court intrigue, and is a consummate back stabber. Nothing he says carries anything of meaningful value. His vulgar accent and gravely voice rubbed me the wrong way from the outset. The guy is bad news and Trump should have pulled the rip cord on him long ago.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:17 pm to jimmyb1234
Why do you think Trump hasn't yet? Its becoming clearer each day that he is no good so why do we keep hearing from him?
Remember about a month ago, trump retweeted a fire Fauci tweet. The next day he had to walk it back. Why?
Remember about a month ago, trump retweeted a fire Fauci tweet. The next day he had to walk it back. Why?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:17 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Fauci would make a great weather man.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:24 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:You're still on this?
80,000 deaths? 60,000 deaths? If you Google "CDC Director Redfield" and "80,000 deaths" you will find 100+ articles from Sept of 2018 quoting Redfield stating that there were 80,000 deaths in the 2017-18 flu season. Articles in Newsweek, Washington Post, NY Post, Chicago Tribune, etc all quote Redfield at 80,000 deaths. However, some time in the past 18 months or so, that number has been revised by the CDC to about 60,000 (I've seen several versions, but all around 60,000).
This is pathetic, man, it really is. You harp on this very early estimate of flu deaths because it happened to be later revised down, as if that has any bearing whatsoever on counting dead bodies and death certs as they happen. Which, by the way, that 2017-18 flu season had only 15,500 death certs that mentioned flu. The rest of that 60k estimate is based on numerous factors, most importantly the number of excess deaths over what was expected. And the estimate is still not final two years later. Also, the 95% UI is 46k to 95k. Do you understand any of this shite?
You're trying to play this like it's some damning evidence that the CDC has a bad habit of overcounting dead bodies, but that's not how this works.
So you didn't answer my question from earlier. There are only two possible things you can be... are you an idiot or a liar? Those are the only two types of people who could possibly misinterpret/misrepresent things this badly.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:27 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:That's because they counted the rest as covid-19 deaths.
only 5,886 flu deaths from the last week in January thru May 3
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Do you think it is possible that the entire world social distancing may have perhaps caused a drop in flu transmission?
just maybe?
just maybe?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:44 pm to Redbone
quote:
That's because they counted the rest as covid-19 deaths.
bingo
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:49 pm to Korkstand
You have nothing but insults, Slick. You try to insult everyone else's stats, but you can't provide the most BASIC facts in this issue.
Fill in the blanks, please (for 2020):
Flu deaths______________ plus COVID-19 deaths___________ = _______________
And use CDC stats please
Fill in the blanks, please (for 2020):
Flu deaths______________ plus COVID-19 deaths___________ = _______________
And use CDC stats please
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:55 pm to Redbone
quote:Here are the flu deaths counted by the CDC from the last week in Jan through the second week in April (the last week for which 2020 data is anywhere near complete), by year.
only 5,886 flu deaths from the last week in January thru May 3quote:
That's because they counted the rest as covid-19 deaths.
2014 - 1825
2015 - 2269
2016 - 2414
2017 - 4428
2018 - 7506
2019 - 4799
2020 - 5533
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:00 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:And data.
You have nothing but insults, Slick.
quote:I insult people who misrepresent stats.
You try to insult everyone else's stats
quote:I have provided the basics, you just don't understand it.
but you can't provide the most BASIC facts in this issue.
quote:
Fill in the blanks, please (for 2020):
Flu deaths______________ plus COVID-19 deaths___________ = _______________
And use CDC stats please
Again, your insistence on CDC stats makes it painfully obvious that you're trying to misrepresent reality. You KNOW, or at least you should know because you've been told dozens of times, and it is explained right there on the page you've linked, that the most recent 4-8 weeks of CDC data is incomplete. Yet you still repeatedly attempt to compare those numbers to more current ones, or to past complete data.
Only an idiot or a liar would do this. Which are you?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:05 pm to Korkstand
quote:
2014 - 1825
2015 - 2269
2016 - 2414
2017 - 4428
2018 - 7506
2019 - 4799
2020 - 5533
Got a link to that?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:06 pm to Korkstand
quote:Neither. Why do you ask?
Only an idiot or a liar would do this. Which are you?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:08 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:LINK
Got a link to that?
That is CSV data, you have to open it in a spreadsheet and run the calcs yourself.
I summed the flu deaths column for weeks 5-15 for each year.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:09 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Because only an idiot or a liar would behave the way you are. Trolls fall into both categories, if that's what you are.
Neither. Why do you ask?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:19 pm to Korkstand
Since I have the data, the following is actual flu death counts by year for the full year. Each total starts at week 27 of the prior year and ends with week 26 of the year indicated.
2014 - 4426 (missing first few weeks, but weekly deaths were minimal at the time)
2015 - 8186
2016 - 3439
2017 - 6909
2018 - 15635
2019 - 7145
2020 - 8566 (missing 9 weeks and partial data from most recent several weeks)
So 2018 was obviously the worst flu year in this data, and 2020 is the second worst.
2014 - 4426 (missing first few weeks, but weekly deaths were minimal at the time)
2015 - 8186
2016 - 3439
2017 - 6909
2018 - 15635
2019 - 7145
2020 - 8566 (missing 9 weeks and partial data from most recent several weeks)
So 2018 was obviously the worst flu year in this data, and 2020 is the second worst.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:23 pm to Korkstand
quote:You have reduced yourself to petty insults.
Because only an idiot or a liar would behave the way you are. Trolls fall into both categories, if that's what you are.
Too funny!
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:26 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You have reduced yourself to a caricature of a real person. You do not respond to facts and reality. You create your own reality where up is down and true is false.
There is no other direction for a discussion to go with a person like that.
There is no other direction for a discussion to go with a person like that.
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