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re: Family lost appeal for use of Ivermectin
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:41 am to Wednesday
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:41 am to Wednesday
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I realize its efficacy for treating Covid has not been demonstrated in a clinical trial
The problem with ivermectin in clinical trials is that ivermectin needs to be PART of the early treatment. It is true that if you use ivermectin only to kill the virus that the required dosage levels are toxic.
I feel like I've said it a million times on this board...fighting COVID is a numbers game. How many viral particles can your own immune system handle? If your own immune system can only handle 1 billion COVID virus particles and it replicate to 2 billion you are going to get sick.
However if you handle 1 billion, ivermectin handles 250 million, HCQ handles 500 million and famotidine handles 250 million then you can get cured.
Ivermectin needs to be PART of the solution. With that said people with strong immune systems that can handle 1.75 billion viral particles and the ivermectin handles 250 million particles, ivermectin all of a sudden seems to work alone.
If it is already not known I'm using viral particle numbers as a hypothetical to demonstrate that antivirals need to be PART of the cure.
This is why the Front Line Doctors have a protocol for preventive, early and hospital treatments. All these protocols do not have one magic pill. The protocols implement medications to attack the virus on several fronts. Ivermectin is just PART of the protocols. You needs Ivermectin in addition to.
Ivermectin alone will never show absolute promise. However, ivermectin in addition to other meds has been effective at curing COVID.
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:41 am to beebefootballfan
It’s certainly driven the case rate of Covid.
You have the government paying for the test to prove that they’re going to pay the hospital more for the diagnosis.
Hospitals are definitely playing with house money with the CARES act.
You have the government paying for the test to prove that they’re going to pay the hospital more for the diagnosis.
Hospitals are definitely playing with house money with the CARES act.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:43 am to Herooftheday
We are at a crossroads that history will ultimately judge. People have sold their souls for $$$ due to COVIDs. What has happened to the Hippocratic Oath? Vents are harm when other remedies, Ivermectin, are available. Big Pharma, CDC, AMA, Fauci have all become soulless ghouls. I hope we eventually hold them accountable.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:45 am to Herooftheday
Florida Mayo Clinic is a charnel house.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:48 am to Wednesday
quote:Think about it. If prescribed HCQ and/or Ivermectin was widely available, and showed a marked recovery rate, then $$$$ Remdesivir would fall by wayside.
Here’s what I don’t understand about the Ivermectin hesitation in the medical community.
Is there a reason doctors haven’t tried it upon diagnosis? I realize its efficacy for treating Covid has not been demonstrated in a clinical trial - but it’s also not been demonstrated to harm people. It would seem there is at least SOME evidence among docs who have prescribed it as part of a protocol that it helps. First do no harm.
I am not a doctor. However if I were 65+ and got the Rona, I don’t understand why the first order of business isn’t giving a Rx for Ivermectin or HCQ and a freaking Zpack? Does anyone know? What is the “official” explanation.
There is nothing in this protocol that could hurt so far as I understand. And it certainly makes more sense than “call me if you get worse.”
As with most things, follow the money.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:56 am to dafif
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I’d move the guy out to Shands asap
THIS
Posted on 1/17/22 at 8:58 am to Wednesday
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Here’s what I don’t understand about the Ivermectin hesitation in the medical community.
It has appeared to me many family Dr's are using it and wanting to use it. It looks like the cases we have seen all involve hospitals wanting to follow their protocols and fighting any outside treatment options from the family's Dr.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:04 am to Herooftheday
The truth is politicians don't care at all about covid and what is does to the population. They just care about the control it gives them over our lives. Medical industry gets paid extra by government when they handle covid patients. If they cure a patient, they lose the money.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:10 am to j1897
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Ivermectin, whether it can help against covid or not... is harmless to the person taking it.
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Not true.
That’s it? No explanation. Let me guess, it you eat a dump truck load - right? frick off count.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:10 am to tide06
quote:How can I research beforehand what local hospital would be the best one in case someone has to go. We have 2 main hospitals here in Lafayette.
You should be very careful as to which hospital you take a patient for Covid symptoms.
I would suggest everyone reading this thread look up treatment protocols for area hospitals ahead of time so that you know where to go if and when treatment is needed.
Getting them to shift treatment protocols after admission can literally require a court injunction and meanwhile your loved one is languishing and possibly being treated with drugs linked to serious side effects…
Lafayette General and Our Lady of Lourdes. Which one is the best for Covid treatment ?
As I write this I am home on quarantine because my daughter tested positive at the start of school last week.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:12 am to Redmann
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If they cure a patient, they lose the money.
No.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:18 am to Herooftheday
Is prescribing ivermectin a state by state thing? My brother in law was prescribed it for covid last week.
Side note, the price was like $300.
Side note, the price was like $300.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:31 am to Wednesday
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And it certainly makes more sense than “call me if you get worse.”
I don’t understand either. And now they’ve taken away monoclonal antibody treatments. I assume saving lives is low on the priority list. I wonder how Docs with a conscience live with it.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:35 am to Herooftheday
Since the patient has been on a vent for 28 days and his infection with Covid was days to weeks before that, it’s unlikely that there is any “virus” left attacking his body. Instead, the cascade of post infection associated factors and likely aggravated preexisting conditions are now the concern.
I’m all for them treating acutely affected patients with Ivermectin but I doubt it would help here.
That said, the hospital, at this point should go ahead and allow it because it’s unlikely to cause any harm.
I’m all for them treating acutely affected patients with Ivermectin but I doubt it would help here.
That said, the hospital, at this point should go ahead and allow it because it’s unlikely to cause any harm.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:37 am to tide06
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I would suggest everyone reading this thread look up treatment protocols for area hospitals ahead of time so that you know where to go if and when treatment is needed.
Good Suggestion
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:40 am to loogaroo
Cold hearted...except the patient is under anesthesia...
That shite burns like hell when injected!!
That shite burns like hell when injected!!
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:45 am to swamplynx
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Is prescribing ivermectin a state by state thing? My brother in law was prescribed it for covid last week.
Side note, the price was like $300.
No. You just have to find a doctor who is willing to prescribe it and a pharmacist that is willing to fill it.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:50 am to swamplynx
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My brother in law was prescribed it for covid last week.
Where, in LC?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:58 am to loogaroo
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Patient's family wants it. Takes a few seconds to print up a liability disclaimer for the family to sign.
Seems like a judge with common sense would agree with this.
So these doctors are just throwing out medical POA's these days?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:58 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:My doc "couldn't" prescribe HCQ,......but he was taking it.
It has appeared to me many family Dr's are using it and wanting to use it. It looks like the cases we have seen all involve hospitals wanting to follow their protocols and fighting any outside treatment options from the family's Dr.
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