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re: Extreme heat drives Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs to declare state of emergency

Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:24 pm to
Aside from the fact that Katie Hobbs exists, why is this political and why do we hate this, exactly?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:27 pm to
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There were even spots in typically cooler Coconino County in northern Arizona that were excessively hot this summer. They include the bottom of the Grand Canyon, which was at times as high as 115 degrees (46 degrees Celsius).

Yeah, umm, the bottom of the GC is always hot this time of year. Maybe just warmer than usual.

Also, the Flagstaff area has been warmer than usual but the winds up there feel like air conditioner breezes even during monsoon season, and open windows at night cool your homes to 60°F.

Been hotter than hell down in the valley for sure but it's not like they haven't seen that before. It's the fricking dry desert.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:28 pm to
Need a removal emergency of her corrupt arse instead.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:29 pm to
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why do we hate this, exactly?

Because anyone even mentioning the fact that it's really fricking hot outside is nothing but a beta, groomer, pedo, prog, cuck.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Yeah, umm, the bottom of the GC is always hot this time of year

Yeah, the bottom of the GC is usually 20 - 25 degrees warmer.

Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:35 pm to
This is their next move. Use "climate change" to put us under a SOE. Remember Dems only let go of the Covid SOE when Rs took back the house.

We need to end Governors being able to become mini dictators using SOE
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:35 pm to
I also see some mighty nice nighttime lows too on that chart
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

why is this political and why do we hate this, exactly?




Are you OK with Governors using BS to make themselves into mini dictators?

The use of SOE power needs limits on it.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:38 pm to
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Are you OK with Governors using BS to make themselves into mini dictators?



It's not like she declared martial law or some shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

why do we hate this, exactly?

Because anyone even mentioning the fact that it's really fricking hot outside is nothing but a beta, groomer, pedo, prog, cuck.


Really hot outside =/= declaring a state of emergency which is a ruse to get federal funding.

Maybe I just understand the game better than you do
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:39 pm to
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We need to end Governors being able to become mini dictators using SOE

Who is “we” there? Despite your fan designation im pretty sure you aren’t an AZ resident.

It seems like you don’t have a full grasp of dual sovereignty. There’s very very little the federal government could do to prevent States from defining what constitutes an emergency as it relates to state money and state agencies.

ETA: Let’s pretend Kari Lake was governor of Arizona and took this exact action. Would there even be a thread on it?
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Really hot outside =/= declaring a state of emergency which is a ruse to get federal funding.

The states ability to recover money from fedgov is totally separate. Biden would have to declare an SOE in Arizona for that.

Hobb’s order seems to only involve releasing state money. At least how it’s represented in the OP
Posted by Bandit1980
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:42 pm to
Will the governor's mansion turn off it's AC system and open the windows like they want everyone to do?


Ask the dumbshit Gov. in charge that question.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
179391 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Who is “we” there? Despite your fan designation im pretty sure you aren’t an AZ resident.



Jesus Christ, dude

I am speaking in general for all Governors and our Federal Government. JBE kept us under a CV SoE for way longer than needed. All Dem Governors did and so did Biden on a Federal level. It was all BS and a power grab.

quote:

It seems like you don’t have a full grasp of dual sovereignty. There’s very very little the federal government could do to prevent States from defining what constitutes an emergency as it relates to state money and state agencies.



I fully understand. I think each state needs to enact limits on Governors being able to make themselves dictators. I have said this numerous times on here and my stance hasn't changed. It's a workaround for Governors that needs to be checked.

You are clearly OK with it, though.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:45 pm to
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It's not like she declared martial law or some shite.



Oh OK...it's all fine then.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:46 pm to
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I also see some mighty nice nighttime lows too on that chart



There are no night time lows on that chart. That chart shows the highest temperature recorded during the month of August at the Buckeye weather station (just outside of Phoenix) for all recorded years.

Here are the lowest temperatures recorded during the month of August at the same station:



Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35696 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:46 pm to
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You are clearly OK with it, though

Nah I decidedly don’t give a damn, because I’m not an Arizona resident.

But even if I were, no I wouldn’t be freaking out because the State released money to state agencies and state subdivisions to deal with heat-related issues.

Would you consider this order an extreme act of tyranny if Kari Lake signed it?
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20696 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:47 pm to
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Hobbs said in a statement Friday that the declaration will allow the state to reimburse various government entities for funds spent on providing relief from high temperatures.

Did they try this first?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35696 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Oh OK...it's all fine then.

You so desperately want this to be abject tyranny and instead it just….isn’t

It’s red tape for State funding triggers.
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