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re: Explosive 9/11 Claims by Richard Gage | PBD Podcast | Ep. 183
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:16 pm to Willie Stroker
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:16 pm to Willie Stroker
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I’m not sure if it’s better described as retarded or mentally ill to believe it was brought down by controlled demolition. But it is something much worse than just stupid.
You summed these loons up well with this
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:18 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:Doesn't even need to be a whole floor. A couple of columns will do. Test it yourself. Stand on a coke can. Have a friend pluck it. Does it fall over at the bottom sideways? Nope. it crushes vertically.
It’s believable to me to the extent it’s realistic two sides and/or middle would give way at the same time. Fire on a whole floor seems like it would do that.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:34 pm to AlxTgr
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You realize the fires on multiple floors burned completely out of control, right?
Crazy this just happened to a building in Changsha, China except on a much worse magnitude and the building is still standing.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:44 pm to southerngent1417
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Crazy this just happened to a building in Changsha, China except on a much worse magnitude and the building is still standing.
How many planes hit it?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Lol, you can’t keep up. I was responding to a post talking about WTC7. How many planes hit WTC7?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:53 pm to southerngent1417
So you think it was just a fire? 
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:54 pm to southerngent1417
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How many planes hit WTC7?
How many thousands of tons of debris hit WTC7 when the towers collapsed? It didn't just spontaneously burst into flame. There was a reason it caught fire.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:54 pm to Jimbeaux
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However, the explanation that those twin sky rise buildings had an unusual design which designers knew made them susceptible to catastrophic collapse lends some credence to the legitimacy of the official narrative.
The WTC towers were not "unusual" design but instead they were a new class of exoskeleton buildings that put the structure support on the perimeter of the building. The floors were simply attached inside to the exterior support. This was a new architechtural design scheme for skyscrapers and it allowed builders to erect them very high, fast, and cheaper.
When the internal floor supports gave way they started a chain reaction of pancaking the floors until the structure came apart. The stress on the concrete pretty much turned it to dust as it exploded in the failure.
The conspiracy theorists looked at video of the collapses and saw jets of dust/smoke/gas jetting out the building in places. This was from the floors collapsing not from carefully planted explosives...
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:01 pm to DreauxB2015
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Well explain it to us then . What other meaning could “ Pull it “ have that causes a building to collapse in seconds into its own footprint without explosives.
“Pull it” seems more likely to be a reference to the firefighting mission taking place inside the building. Silverstein’s remarks were clearly in the context of the call he received from the fire department commander.
Virtually all the firemen working near WTC 7 claimed that it was going to collapse because of fire and the structural damage. In fact Deputy Chief Peter Hayden said " There were a lot of damaged apparatus there that were covered. We tried to get searches in those areas. By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o'clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse."
Notice he said that by 2:00 they realized that it was going to collapse.
But from your point of view, was it a team of highly trained ninjas that secretly packed the building with explosives AND created a bulge in the structure to cause all these firefighters to notice and conclude that a collapse was imminent?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:05 pm to southerngent1417
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Crazy this just happened to a building in Changsha, China except on a much worse magnitude and the building is still standing.
Crazy this DID NOT just happen to a building in Changsha, China.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:17 pm to Willie Stroker
"Larry Silverstein exercised a $3.4-billion lease for the World Trade Center six weeks before 9/11. He negotiated his insurance coverage on the towers to include any damage from terrorist attacks. He was awarded $7 billion when the dust settled"
I can't say for sure what happened on 9/11 wether a bulge or a explosive or some other plan caused 7 to collapse. This dude got rich though and had great timing.
I can't say for sure what happened on 9/11 wether a bulge or a explosive or some other plan caused 7 to collapse. This dude got rich though and had great timing.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:26 pm to Gaspergou202
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Take an iron bar, sit it in the middle of the charcoal in your barbecue pit, wait a few minutes. You can bend it with your hands like super man.
yup. you do not need to reach melting temps of 2700 and have a tensile strength break for failure. you just need yield strength to fail. the jet fuel and other things reached temps of up to 1800 degrees. more than enough to allow steel members to bend and give way.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:28 pm to michael corleone
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This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:29 pm to Bridget O
it has all been explained. keep believing fairy tales and not science.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:32 pm to Bridget O
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And Building 7? Explain that.
It had debris from two buildings collapse onto it. This created a gaping hole in the tower. Fires erupted all over the building and that, combined with the weaknesses created by the collapse of WTC1 and WTC2 led to the building's eventual failure and collapse.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:32 pm to Jayrod79
quote:Considering the WTC had already been the target of terrorist attacks, I'd say if his negotiated coverage did not include terrorist attacks that would have been extraordinarily imprudent. Wouldn't you?
He negotiated his insurance coverage on the towers to include any damage from terrorist attacks.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:36 pm to umrebel2009
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Cliffs
Two planes. Three buildings.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:38 pm to CPTDCKHD
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Two planes. Three buildings.
Two hours, and that's the best he could do?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:42 pm to BamaScoop
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the possibility of this two building falling perfectly on themselves like an implosion. I just find that to basically be impossible.
Especially when you factor in Rumsfeld's admission that "Trillions of dollars in transactions are unaccounted for"
...on 9/10/2001.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:48 pm to michael corleone
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The weight pushing down from 80 plus floors plus the metal fatigue caused by heat is the answer.
The building was supporting no more weight than before impact, if anything less weight because of the fire.
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