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re: Excellent read on the downfall of US push for Globalism
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:13 am to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:13 am to tiggerthetooth
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Reality is reality. Unless these countries can magically come up with hundreds of millions of people in their 20s and 30s these countries are fricked
The US is heading down the same road. Every first world country is because none of them have been replacing themselves fast enough
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:17 am to xxTIMMYxx
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The US is heading down the same road. Every first world country is because none of them have been replacing themselves fast enough
It will become a problem in 20-30 years. You are correct.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:20 am to tiggerthetooth
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Wrong. Its over. Look at the data.
You are making predictions based on data which is fine. It is absolutely not over right now.
Go look at the picture of the most recent G7. Now tell me which of those leaders reject globalism?
Do you feel in charge right now? Do you think you are winning?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:29 am to DallasTiger11
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Go look at the picture of the most recent G7. Now tell me which of those leaders reject globalism?
You're too focused on the showmanship and theater of politics and not looking hard enough at the reality. Stop being a Democrat. A piece of performance art can't change the laws of physics or thousands of years of historical grievances.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:39 am to tiggerthetooth
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It will become a problem in 20-30 years. You are correct.
Might the fact we can import labor, if needed, combined with tax and regulatory changes to get an increase in the US birthrate help sustain us and ultimately provide us with prosperity once again. The US is extremely resilient with distinct advantages over any country in the world. Bye Bye UN!!
The correct messaging can alert the public about who the real villains behind our current problems are. The penalties for their behavior must be severe.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 11:15 am to tiggerthetooth
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You're too focused on the showmanship and theater of politics and not looking hard enough at the reality. Stop being a Democrat. A piece of performance art can't change the laws of physics or thousands of years of historical grievances.
I don’t disagree that they might ultimately lose and I admire the optimism sir. Happy Sunday.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 2:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
How does automation and other technological advances fit in? Labor has the same relevance?
Much of what I see appears to be stronger methods of codifying supra-governmental (WHO as an example) and global corporate control (and quasi fiscal control like ESG through Blackrock) and a squabbling for resources. It looks for all the world to me like natural resources are being stripped away from people and even countries by the "poor policy decisions" of governments and especially messed up economic bubbles that roll along...farmers with Saving and Loan 80s, investment portfolios of the middle class 90s, home owners and retirement savings (especially those tied to cities and states) 00s, ballooning debit with cards and student loans 10s, small businesses and processing plants 20s. Each economic collapse taking out a sector or rendering it ripe for restructuring. I had been unaware that this was going on in country after country. It looks more like these are the last flag waving days, as if nations are being subsumed and this is the closing phase of that. What will then be is the wars of the hidden elites over the allocation of resources and distribution, fiefdoms.
Much of what I see appears to be stronger methods of codifying supra-governmental (WHO as an example) and global corporate control (and quasi fiscal control like ESG through Blackrock) and a squabbling for resources. It looks for all the world to me like natural resources are being stripped away from people and even countries by the "poor policy decisions" of governments and especially messed up economic bubbles that roll along...farmers with Saving and Loan 80s, investment portfolios of the middle class 90s, home owners and retirement savings (especially those tied to cities and states) 00s, ballooning debit with cards and student loans 10s, small businesses and processing plants 20s. Each economic collapse taking out a sector or rendering it ripe for restructuring. I had been unaware that this was going on in country after country. It looks more like these are the last flag waving days, as if nations are being subsumed and this is the closing phase of that. What will then be is the wars of the hidden elites over the allocation of resources and distribution, fiefdoms.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 5:43 pm to ironwood
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It looks more like these are the last flag waving days, as if nations are being subsumed and this is the closing phase of that. What will then be is the wars of the hidden elites over the allocation of resources and distribution, fiefdoms.
You think nations are going away, but the world is just re-structuring. Its going to be about a decade until the new world order, whatever that is going to be, shows itself.
The US was the leader of the previous world order, we may not be the "leader" of the new order, but based on our geography, demographics, military, etc. We'll be in really good shape.
I just think most people have never known a world other than the post-WW2 era. The oldest people in our society were born right before WW2, and the boomers were born a good decade after ww2 ended. So nobody really has any idea what a de-globalized world actually looks like in reality.
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How does automation and other technological advances fit in? Labor has the same relevance?
To what degree? Places like Japan have had a lot of automation helping them get through their demographics issues, and they put all of their manufacturing investments in other countries with better demographics to fill employment for those manufacturing plants (think Toyota in Dallas, TX).
Automation isn't happening nearly to the degree people think. Maybe if something unexpected like AGI is created we'd have to discuss more than just US demographic patterns. That would be a world changing event for sure, but a lot of people don't know if that will happen anytime soon, if ever. We still havent fully automated vehicles and there's tons of talent and capital flowing to solve that problem.
Most of these ideas ive just stolen from others on youtube, in books ,etc.
Here's a book on geopolitics that can help explain a lot of whats already been happening...and is going to continue to happen.
The US is having to re-industrialize, and it will be the largest growth of manufacturing since before the civil war. Why? Because we cant afford to utilize the global supply chains, too expensive, too insecure, too many geopolitical risks.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:08 pm to Timeoday
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Might the fact we can import labor, if needed, combined with tax and regulatory changes to get an increase in the US birthrate help sustain us and ultimately provide us with prosperity once again. The US is extremely resilient with distinct advantages over any country in the world. Bye Bye UN!!
Yes, and this WILL happen. As other countries start to collapse and suffer societal/economic pain, the US will have a perfect opportunity to bring highly skilled labor into our economy and add their knowledge expertise once the opportunities in their countries are lost.
This is whats beautiful about the US, its geographically almost impossible for any major military advance, its vast enough to have plenty of AMAZING agricultural land, vast enough to provide tons of cheap energy (oil and gas, and western US is perfect for solar energy).
It helps a lot when you have two massive oceans on both sides of your country, and your northern and southern neighbors are your best economic friends (USMCA agreement under Trump).
Mexico-US-Canada will be the most powerful triumvirate going forward. Mexico is going to take on as much manufacturing as it can to replace what China loses, and Canada is going to be able to sell all of their oil&gas to the US.
The US will be in a wonderful position, but you never what the future holds in terms of politics. We'd have to be pretty damn wreckless to screw it up.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:40 pm to tiggerthetooth
Now, throw the Forth Turning into this...
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