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re: Europe is getting ready to lock down again...

Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:04 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
46801 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:04 am to
Been since the last Obama term in office. Just like we have now.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
1359 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:21 am to
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Was there ever a pandemic really?


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Medically, the pandemic moniker is unjustifiable. When the sacrosanct World Health Organization (WHO) made its official declaration in June, we were 11 weeks into the outbreak, and swine flu had only killed 144 people worldwide--the same number who die of seasonal flu worldwide every few hours. The mildest pandemics of the 20th century killed at least a million people worldwide. And even after six months, swine flu has killed about as many people as the seasonal flu does every six days.

So how could WHO make such an outrageous claim?

Simple. It rewrote the definition of "pandemic."

A previous official definition (and widely used unofficial one) required "simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous numbers of deaths and illness." Severity--that is, the number--is crucial, because seasonal flu always causes worldwide simultaneous epidemics. But one promulgated in April just days before the announcement of the swine flu outbreak simply eliminated severity as a factor.


Article written in Forbes in 2009. People were complaining about the evolving definition with swine flu. I guess our complaints didn't really matter.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:23 am to
I saw a NYT article yesterday that sounded like what sane people have been saying for 18 months.

Urge the vulnerable to be cautious, stop using “cases” as a metric, and move on with life.

I assume these lockdowns are due to rising case counts?

I don’t like the way people are acting as if we can’t treat this virus. I find that very troubling.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44375 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:49 am to
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Trump’s big failure was not seeing this. In fact, he foolishly participated in it. Although I supported Trump, I realize that he has no governing principles. He is an empty vessel of ego that stocks itself with slogans that will elevate himself. I appreciate his clear-sightedness on China, and I loved his skewering of the left and especially Hillary, but I’d love to see him exit the stage and be replaced by a Jordan Peterson aligned populist.



Well stated sir.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:50 am to
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Europe is getting ready to lock down again...


This is my shocked face

Congrats to the morons who didn’t see this shite coming 18 months ago
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:52 am to
I don't blame Trump for the local COVID overreach, but goddamned is he the kind of sitting on the sidelines and throwing barbs.

In fact, it's pretty much all he does.

You can't look at the country today and excuse the lack of leadership from 2016-2020.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:55 am to
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You can't look at the country today and excuse the lack of leadership from 2016-2020.


It’s true - Trump was great for a lot of things but, man, did he miss the boat of correcting the systemic issues

Maybe the President really is a powerless position?

But I stand by my final verdict of Trump: he was a great president in a time we needed a revolutionary
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63342 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 11:34 am to
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Been since the last Obama term in office. Just like we have now.


CONTINENTAL war, not regional or factional fighting like we've seen since the 1990's. I'm talking a major throw-down akin to World Wars 1 and 2.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7673 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 12:19 pm to
Every one of these surges lasts for 30-45 days and is half over by the time these governments enact their extreme measures.

So they can take some kind of credit.

Just ride it out and everything will be fine. Government action only causes harm which is almost always the case.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31971 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 1:27 pm to
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He is an empty vessel of ego that stocks itself with slogans that will elevate himself

Exactly. This is exactly why he should be vanquished in the 2024 primary process. If Trump wins the bid, he loses, and America loses.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97720 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Exactly. This is exactly why he should be vanquished in the 2024 primary process. If Trump wins the bid, he loses, and America loses.




You voted for JB and the meltdown we are witnessing

Maybe you should just sit on the sidelines
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80517 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 1:33 pm to
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SWEDEN! Keep your eyes on Sweden. They did it right, and when this started they were pilloried by the left because the left knew that if one country stood against them it would ruin their propaganda narrative.

Sweden! This is why I started to root for Mondo Duplantis again.

Plus, my daughter lived there for two years and we visited a lot. Summer in Stockholm and Gotland is nonpareil!


Sweden is 11% of peak, Denmark is at their highest point ever.

Pretty amazing.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 2:10 pm to
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replaced by a Jordan Peterson aligned populist.


Holy shite. LOL
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22655 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 2:54 pm to
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That’s the ever increasing problem with science. People don’t understand it, including trump, so you have to rely on the people that do. If they are corrupt, it’s very hard to challenge them because people don’t have to skills, knowledge, or wherewithal to challenge them

Nobody expected Trump to pass a virology test. He didn't need to understand the science to have not been taken advantage of by the Left. In fact, Trump's initial instincts were spot on - it was clear he was intent on making sure "the cure wasn't worse than the disease" (paraphrasing); remember that? But then he started giving a shite what the press and polls said, and he ended up taking a knee.

Also, it didn't take in depth knowledge of Fauci to quickly figure out he was bad - bad for Trump, bad for the country, and bad for a grownup approach to addressing Covid. Trump should have fired that little fricker 3 days into the "crisis" - but no later than right after he gave that reporter the "I'm surrounded by retards" smirk as he left the press conference with Trump/team.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31971 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 3:24 pm to
My vote for JB was irrelevant because I live in a state that Trump won by over 600,000 votes. But Trump will never again win a national election.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25074 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:14 pm to
Sheep are good listeners...

Do what you are told and things will be OK!
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