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re: ESPN show host says "eye for and eye" is southern culture
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:25 pm to Revelator
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:25 pm to Revelator
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Radio host Collin Cowherd said
Stopped reading right there. If you want to find an example of something that compares to what you view as unjustified bitching about stereotyping, or that's comparable to anything really, Cowherd is just a horrible example, analogy, whatever, to use.
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:31 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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And I know you started this thread to illustrate what you see as hypocritical, but it only adds to the back and forth. JMO.
Since most people can't read minds, I thought this the most direct route.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:32 pm to VOR
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Stopped reading right there. If you want to find an example of something that compares to what you view as unjustified bitching about stereotyping, or that's comparable to anything really, Cowherd is just a horrible example, analogy, whatever, to use.
It was simply a current one and not necessarily the best.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:55 pm to Revelator
"Eye for an eye" is a saying that, contextually, promotes mercy.
Americans are ignorant.
Americans are ignorant.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:59 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
"Eye for an eye" is a saying that, contextually, promotes mercy.
?
Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:56 pm to WinnPtiger
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and an eye for an eye culture does exist in the south.
I would say it exists in all of America, not just the south. The "get even" mentality has always been big in American culture.
The Tony Stewart incident is not a good example of that though.
But if you're going to discuss the "eye for an eye" culture, it exists throughout America. We've always been a culture that has celebrated "getting even" and taking matters into your own hands.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:02 pm to Revelator
I'm pretty sure I read about an "eye for an eye" in an old Jewish text.
I doubt the media has any idea about Jewish culture though.
I doubt the media has any idea about Jewish culture though.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:05 pm to Revelator
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" southerners need to stop clinging to their guns and bibles"
and their antipathy towards the mulatto.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:16 pm to deltaland
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But if you're going to discuss the "eye for an eye" culture, it exists throughout America.
Exactly. This was 2 northern guys on a track in NY. WTF is southern about that? And why doesn't the victim get any blame for running out into the flow of traffic? What was "eye for an eye" about this whole damn thing? Eye for an eye would be the kid wrecking Smoke in another race...IMO
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:10 am to Hater Bait
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I'm pretty sure I read about an "eye for an eye" in an old Jewish text.
It certainly comes from the bible and it's a natural inclination of all humans to want to retaliate when wronged and it's not just applicable to southerners. That's why the idea of turning the other cheek as preposed by Jesus was so foreign to them.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 1:04 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:26 am to theunknownknight
quote:
"Eye for an eye" is a saying that, contextually, promotes mercy. Americans are ignorant.
Wow, somebody gets it. Even most Christians don't seem to understand this point.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 5:27 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:33 am to Revelator
quote:I guess that is not a suspendable comment, but "What I’ve tried to employ the female members of my family — some of who you all met and talked to and what have you — is that ... let’s make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions, because if I come — or somebody else come, whether it’s law enforcement officials, your brother or the fellas that you know — if we come after somebody has put their hands on you, it doesn’t negate the fact that they already put their hands on you," gives a commentator a week off.
ESPN show host says "eye for and eye" is southern culture
Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:58 am to theunknownknight
An eye for an eye or the "law" of retaliation, is the principle that a person who has injured another person is penalized to a similar degree, or in softer interpretations, the victim receives the value of the injury in compensation.[1]
The principle is sometimes referred using the Latin term lex talionis or the law of talion, the English word talion (from the Latin talio.[2]) means a retaliation authorized by law, in which the punishment corresponds in kind and degree to the injury.
The New Testament teachings, better known as the Gospel, tells us this law of revenge is not the way.
The principle is sometimes referred using the Latin term lex talionis or the law of talion, the English word talion (from the Latin talio.[2]) means a retaliation authorized by law, in which the punishment corresponds in kind and degree to the injury.
The New Testament teachings, better known as the Gospel, tells us this law of revenge is not the way.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:12 am to themunch
In the contextual world surrounding Sinai there was disporportionate punishment for crimes in every major culture. If a slave served a bad meal they could be killed. If a slave accidentally injured another, they could be tortured and murdered.
The Israelites, former slaves, were being told this was not the way. A person should only receive the damages they incur. Even today this is a jewish idiom pointing more toward mercy than wrath.
Jesus takes this law of mercy further in the sermon on the mount (This makes more sense contextually when you look at all the other "but I tell you" statements. He ups the bar on a previous thought in line with his point). Rabbinically speaking, Jesus is elaborating on His "yoke" by expounding on His "fence" around the law.
The Israelites, former slaves, were being told this was not the way. A person should only receive the damages they incur. Even today this is a jewish idiom pointing more toward mercy than wrath.
Jesus takes this law of mercy further in the sermon on the mount (This makes more sense contextually when you look at all the other "but I tell you" statements. He ups the bar on a previous thought in line with his point). Rabbinically speaking, Jesus is elaborating on His "yoke" by expounding on His "fence" around the law.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 6:20 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:01 am to theunknownknight
quote:I would go with "justice" not mercy. Retaliation should not be too harsh but not too lenient. Rather, it should be equal.
"Eye for an eye" is a saying that, contextually, promotes mercy.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:22 am to Diamondawg
Read the post above yours for fuller explanation.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:35 am to Revelator
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:26 pm to catholictigerfan
Why are you "WTF" me?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 4:40 pm to Revelator
1. This happened a week ago.
2. I don't anyone gives a shite overall, however, in the context of our current climate is interesting how this is a non issue.
3. The bigger issue is ESPN, a network which most of us are familiar with as we all likely came to this board for college football, and the news media in general. They suspend what, 4 hosts recently for far less than this, a blanket assessment of a region, yet no reaction. Speak with your pocketbook and don't stand for a bunch of arse clown news monitors determining your values.
2. I don't anyone gives a shite overall, however, in the context of our current climate is interesting how this is a non issue.
3. The bigger issue is ESPN, a network which most of us are familiar with as we all likely came to this board for college football, and the news media in general. They suspend what, 4 hosts recently for far less than this, a blanket assessment of a region, yet no reaction. Speak with your pocketbook and don't stand for a bunch of arse clown news monitors determining your values.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:11 pm to NoNameNeeded
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I have always related this behavior to disgruntlement and bitterness that goes along with the infamous Southern Inferiority Complex
This does not exist
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