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re: Elon Musk: Without U.S. Tariffs, China Will ‘Demolish’ American Auto Industry

Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:50 pm to
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They also subsidize the shite out of industries that they want to dominate


Subsidy is too weak of a characterization. These industries are owned by the CCP.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23260 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:07 pm to
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Ibchinaman begs to differ.




It will definitely hurt his import of Chinese cars.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11089 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:06 am to
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China Will ‘Demolish’ American Auto Industry


For as big of a pile of crap that Ford/GM/Chrysler make, I can't imagine how shitty chinese cars are.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24830 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:12 am to
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There's very little evidence of such in any real industry there


Check out how they use the Uyghurs they have them literally in camps and utilize forced labor. There is plenty of evidence.

The last report I saw from the Global Slave index put it at 5.8 million people living in slave labor.

LINK

The only people there is “very little evidence of this” for are those whose heads are firmly planted in the sand or their assed.

Even our own DOL admit there is slavery in China LINK

LINK





Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98002 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:55 am to
Where is Rogerthemarxist? Hes not complaining about this
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:57 am to
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Hes not complaining about this


Its an American businessman wanting protective tariffs. Of course you believe it.

You love overpaying for labor.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98002 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:59 am to
Theres our resident marxist clown

Embarrassing himself
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:01 am to
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Embarrassing himself


Tariffs are corporatism, and benefit the oligarchs. Most American companies would love that kind of protection.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 8:01 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98002 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:01 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:02 am to
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We look more and more like communist China everyday, don’t we?

No. We don't


MAGAts are terrified of competition.

Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
9146 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:10 am to
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People overlook this way too much. China competes so well because they use true slave labor and child labor in many instances.


True. But robots can.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:13 am to
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It will definitely hurt his import of Chinese cars.




What happened when we put quotas on Japanese cars in the 80s?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:22 am to
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Embarrassing himself


I know youre not informed enough to answer, but I will ask you the same question.

What happened when we put tariffs on Japanese cars in the 80s?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65785 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:23 am to
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You can't compete against slave labor.


A fact that "free trade" idealists conveniently ignore.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18598 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:26 am to
Our country is very inefficient. From the government, down to the manufacturing. So yeah.. China would dominate in the auto industry if there're no restrictions.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:27 am to
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A fact that "free trade" idealists conveniently ignore.


The problem with tariffs is they discourage innovation and subsidize poor quality.

Sure, you make woke American automated corporations wealthier, but youre not helping the consumer at all.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65785 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:30 am to
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The problem with tariffs is they discourage innovation and subsidize poor quality.

Sure, you make woke American automated corporations wealthier, but youre not helping the consumer at all.


If we assume "the consumer" doesn't need a job, this would be true.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38347 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:30 am to
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The Chinese car companies are the most competitive car companies in the world,
You get like a 30 day warranty on the cars?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299274 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:31 am to
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If we assume "the consumer" doesn't need a job, this would be true.


Future factories will be primarily automation with little human labor input.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28131 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:33 am to
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The problem with tariffs is they discourage innovation and subsidize poor quality.


How can anybody not understand this?
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