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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong

Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74519 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:13 pm to
Civilian jobs are handled by civilians. Gov can stay the hell out. Conservative much?
Posted by ThoUpOrange
Member since Feb 2014
177 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:13 pm to
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I wonder what he thinks about people hiding in a closet constantly scrolling social media, and posting on a message board 200 times a day while their "patients" die?


My wife is an NP at a hosptial and says the Gen-Z nurses do exactly this. If they can claim something is even slightly out of their job scope, they won't do it and will wait for someone else to. And they just sit at the nurses' station on their phones all day unless an emergency happens. Their patients go unbathed and get little to no assistance using the bathroom. Any pushback is met with them crying to the nurse manager, who then tells the providers to be nicer to them because they're understaffed and can't find anyone to replace them.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50991 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:14 pm to
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He’s wrong here. Not everyone can afford childcare for the 7 or w/e kids he has.
I have worked from home since 1995 for six different employers in sales management and business development.

However, the companies were all thousands of miles away, with the exception of my last employer, which has an office 15 minutes from my home, and I had a cubicle to use, but because it was not the same division, I did not have to go but once every 90 days just to log in on the company's badge server to keep the badge active. In fact, since Covid, I only went there once.

I certainly don't feel immoral about it and besides, in my job I had to travel all across the country and internationally, too. Also, I don't consider it immoral at all if someone is WFH and gets their job done efficiently, and is available via Teams or WebEx or some other form of visual communication to gather together as a team or to attend a one on one meeting.

Elon can EABOD on this one.
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
4148 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:14 pm to
If you have a WFH job, there is a good chance AI is going to replace you at some point. WFH for the private sector is fine, I think. WFH for the government should only rarely be allowed. The few things I've seen is government workers productivity decreases if they WFH.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72090 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:14 pm to
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You can tell who the young people are here. They are holding on to the perks from the old Covid era.

Like John, hiding out in a broom closet, doom scrolling X, while he works as an "ICU nurse"?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27700 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:14 pm to
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Member since Sep 2024
3829 posts



47.86 posts a day if started on September 1.

Just wow.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467743 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:15 pm to
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the morally corrupt individuals going to the grocery store and gym while on the clock

For hourly employees, sure, but this shouldn't be called "immoral" for salaried people who get their work done.
Posted by Pelisaints
Member since Feb 2024
118 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:16 pm to
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am glad Trump's right hand man recognizes the morally corrupt individuals going to the grocery store and gym while on the clock. I can't wait for Elon Musk to take a hammer to WFH in the private and federal workforce. Elon will make working in the office great again

get off elon nuts dang
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14112 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:17 pm to
This is a case where one size does not fit all.

If wfh is morally wrong, then so too are executive compensation packages. That doesnt mean I think its to gov’s place to say anything about it.


Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23226 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:18 pm to

The fed was already telling people to go back to the office a few days a week, last year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:18 pm to
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There are certain jobs that 100% do not require a physical office for everyone.


Outside sales, for example.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:19 pm to
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If you have a WFH job, there is a good chance AI is going to replace you at some point.


These people will be put on the assembly line once manufacturing is brought back sufficiently
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:20 pm to
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For hourly employees, sure, but this shouldn't be called "immoral" for salaried people who get their work done.


It doesnt take but one or two salaried folks to ruin it for everyone.

Ive seen this happen in real time.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27700 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:20 pm to
I think OP is actually someone who is making his way into being a legendary troller of the PoliBoard.

El Gaucho is great commenting on posts. This dude makes his own posts, and so many on the PoliBoard are taking him seriously as some carrier of the America First banner. Then he drops things like this from time to time.

I'm entertained. Keep it going, OP.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3482 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:20 pm to
Would you be okay with being monitored all day to make sure you are actually working while at home?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133647 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
My truck is my office.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9537 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
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He’s wrong here. Not everyone can afford childcare for the 7 or w/e kids he has.


This has been discussed in management classes for years. Once someone has a kid, everyone else on the team is expected to pick-up the slack.

Kid is sick, mom must come-in late or leave early. Single employee doesn't get that benefit.

With this approach, you establish that mom doesn't even have to come to the office. And it isn't as if the kids can take care of themselves while mom devotes her full attention to her job. If that were the case, she wouldn't need childcare at all.

There is a moral question on the table. Is less expected from a working parent than an employee with no children? We all know the answer to that.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
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I can't wait for Elon Musk to take a hammer to WFH in the private and federal workforce.

This is stupid
Posted by ThatcherInTheRye
Member since Nov 2024
51 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
If someone is serious about getting me back into the office they can at least pay for commuting costs. I don't want to occupy your empty office buildings just so you can feel better about a made up corporate culture.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23166 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
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can't wait for Elon Musk to take a hammer to WFH in the private


We love our small govt here, folks. Please tell me how this unelected official will impact my private employers wfh policy?
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 2:23 pm
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