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re: Elon Musk Reveals Treasury Has Been Auto-Paying Everyone, Including Terrorist Groups

Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:27 pm to
What is the executives role in this? Explain in detail. Dummy.
Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:29 pm to
CNN’s article on this defends the fact they never denied a payment as part of that teams “mission” that it was by design.



In what fricking planet does that make any sense, even IF true
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:29 pm to
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What is the executives role in this?


I already have in this thread and others.

Congress has the power of the purse and impoundment is illegal. If you want to take scouts up on that you’re welcome to but bypassing checks and balances to service one’s political agenda is against everything the founders intended.

This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:31 pm to
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In what fricking planet does that make any sense


Exec branch does not have the authority to deny payments directed by leg branch. This was challenged and upheld by scotus in the 70’s.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Was it authorized by Congress?


Even if it was, is that ethical?

At all?

Is foreign aid approved by congress? The president just paused it for review.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:31 pm to
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impoundment is illegal.

Link?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:34 pm to
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Even if it was, is that ethical? At all?


That’s a political question. Exec branch doesn’t get to frustrate the will of leg branch appropriations. Settled con law. If you want to challenge it then scotus is always there. Until then it’s illegal and unconstitutional.

I thought yall cared about the constitution?
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:35 pm to
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Link?


You want me to link train vs nyc?

Don’t play dumb. If you want exec branch to be a dictatorship just say so.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:37 pm to
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about the constitution?



MAGA is the Constitution now. We are not sending $50 million to Hamas to buy Condoms anymore.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:40 pm to
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MAGA is the Constitution now


ideology over country, got it

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We are not sending $50 million to Hamas to buy Condoms anymore.


this was a lie LINK
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:42 pm to
BBonds do you agree with “ MAGA is the Constitution now.”?
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:43 pm to
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3 There is a massive conflict of interest to have an industrialists with many business interests having access to sensitive payment systems

Can you show us where this industrialist' access and knowledge of government finances and sensitive payment systems which he is probing and executing cost savings has benefitted him directly?
Or is your concern that this auditing has truly uncovered federal graft and incompetence that harms the taxpayers that he and OMB have sworn to protect.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:45 pm to
I bet Drac has never read the 10th Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

In other words, 90% of what the federal government does is blatantly unconstitutional. But, no one cares. As long as 5 political hack justices stretch something like the commerce clause miles past what it was intended for, then the gravy train is open for business.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Can you show us where this industrialist' access and knowledge of government finances and sensitive payment systems which he is probing and executing cost savings has benefitted him directly?


He’s one of the biggest beneficiaries of government contracts and having direct access to payment systems he can access insider knowledge about future contracts and spending priorities, which advantage his companies in bidding processes. He can access insights into competitor contracts and financial flows and potentially manipulate the “Do Not Pay” system, which could be used to blacklist competitors.


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Or is your concern that this auditing has truly uncovered federal graft and incompetence that harms the taxpayers that he and OMB have sworn to protect.


I have no problem with any of this, but the person doing it should be neutral and not ramping up crony capitalism to previously unseen levels.
Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Draconian Sanctions

After having AI read your post history, it spit this image out as the most likely physical appearance of the author.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:48 pm to
jesus. get a hobby homie.

it’s a beautiful day outside
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:49 pm to
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Drac has never read the 10th Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


How does that apply here? Be specific and make sure to take current scotus rulings into account.
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Nothing like "America First" having a non American billionaire openly running the US government like this


African Americans are still Americans
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Smeg


After having AI read your post history, it spit this image out as the most likely physical appearance of the author.



Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:56 pm to
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It's insane so many people voted for this madness.


Obama the Kenyan Muslim and his Iranian evil hit gal ran the White House for two terms. Now that is insane.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 3:58 pm
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