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re: Elon Musk just said online survey "Do you like the National Park" costed nearly $1 BILLION
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:21 am to BugAC
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:21 am to BugAC
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Shouldn't we, i don't know, stop the contract first?
Wasn't this already done?
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Musk's purview isn't to prosecute, it's simply to find inefficiency then report it to the department head.
Ok. That's fine. If he's choosing to go on social media and/or television to tell regular old people he found a specific instance of monumental waste, do you think it's unreasonable to want to know more about the waste and who benefited from it? It's seems like you have a problem with me wanting details about who was on the receiving end of this money. It would be very easy to find on the actual contract. Who signed it?
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"who is the responsible" will likely not be on the DOGE website.
How would you define a "receipt?" To me, a receipt of the existence of a contract would be the actual contract.
If I claimed that Chicken is paying me $50 an hour to post and the receipt I posted was an excel spreadsheet with dates and hours on it - would that satisfy the criteria for a receipt? Of course not. Anyone can type anything up. You'd need something with his signature on it or at least something on official letterhead.
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:33 am to John Barron
The National Parks also brought in 55 Billion...They make money. Cutting national park services is flat out stupid
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:57 am to 4cubbies
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you want evidence of something that doesn't exist?
He is making a claim based on zero evidence after being upset that Musk made a claim that he says he has evidence of but hasn't produced yet. So no evidence good, evidence to come later bad?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 10:58 am to GamecockUltimate
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The National Parks also brought in 55 Billion..
Not true, but you knew that already.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:03 am to 4cubbies
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If he's choosing to go on social media and/or television to tell regular old people he found a specific instance of monumental waste, do you think it's unreasonable to want to know more about the waste and who benefited from it?
Not at all.
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It's seems like you have a problem with me wanting details about who was on the receiving end of this money.
Because i don't believe this is your intent. Your intent, IMO, is to demand something that hasn't been released yet or something that hasn't been posted in this thread and then say "see, Musk is lying".
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How would you define a "receipt?" To me, a receipt of the existence of a contract would be the actual contract.
Proof of the expenditure. I'd say the screenshots of the governmental approval system (the contract) acknowledging the amount granted to whatever entity is sufficient. Are you wanting paper? I'd say the vast majority of these systems for funding requests are digital. Outside medicare/social security systems that were filed in a cave in Pennsylvania, some of our governmental systems have been modernized to digital, like most of the developed world.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:20 am to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
these people are in favor of corruption and seeing the evidence on the website doesn't change their stances one bit. They refuse to believe their free money train is ending. These are the type of people why we kicked arse in November. They are parasites to society
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:20 am to GamecockUltimate
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The National Parks also brought in 55 Billion
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:40 am to BugAC
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Your intent, IMO, is to demand something that hasn't been released yet or something that hasn't been posted in this thread and then say "see, Musk is lying".
I don't understand why he would intentionally go on the TV to tell people he discovered a specific instance of waste if he wasn't willing to share evidence of that specific waste.
I didn't call him a liar, I just want to see what he found.
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I'd say the screenshots of the governmental approval system (the contract) acknowledging the amount granted to whatever entity is sufficient.
How did he figure out that money was for one survey?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:41 am to Rosenblatt91
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Rosenblatt91
Hates critical thinking and thinks everyone should believe what government officials say without question.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:51 am to 4cubbies
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Hates critical thinking and thinks everyone should believe what government officials say without question.
We should 100% not trust the government, but I tend to believe what DOGE puts out because it almost sounds so made up that it can't be fake. If I were making up contracts I cut I sure wouldn't think the American people would buy our government spent 5 billion to help advance LGBTQ groups in Ghana. If Elon and the Doge team turn out to be liars then I will be denounce them and call them out. When our government forced vaccinations on people that is now resulting in a massive increase in aggressive cancers I hope you denounced those people and didn't defend it. I don't know what you did, but I have a feeling.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:01 pm to NussBusDriver
Did Elon ever show the $1B for a survey or not?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:25 pm to POTUS2024
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Did Elon ever show the $1B for a survey or not?
Pretty sure he announced it yesterday or the day before. I haven't seen anything today but I also haven't looked.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:41 pm to GamecockUltimate
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The National Parks also brought in 55 Billion...They make money. Cutting national park services is flat out stupid
$55.8 Billion contributed to the economy. You would have to be retarded as hell to want to do away with the National Park system.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:42 pm to MemphisGuy
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You would have to be retarded as hell to want to do away with the National Park system.
I haven't seen where anybody wants too.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:50 pm to 4cubbies
Receipt Generator
Letterhead is as easy made up as business cards are at FedexOffice.
The annual pork report has put the names of individual senators and reps for over 30 years attached to BS spending, but you've never read that either. That's where ultimate accountability was supposed to lie, before the farce that is years of continuing resolutions.
Letterhead is as easy made up as business cards are at FedexOffice.
The annual pork report has put the names of individual senators and reps for over 30 years attached to BS spending, but you've never read that either. That's where ultimate accountability was supposed to lie, before the farce that is years of continuing resolutions.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:16 pm to NussBusDriver
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I haven't seen where anybody wants too.
Didn't say they did. Just said if they wanted to they'd be retarded.
But you KNOW somewhere... probably even here... there's that one guy going... "look at all the lumber in those trees... and I bet there's tons of stuff worth mining in the middle of the Smoky Mountains."
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:20 pm to NussBusDriver
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I haven't seen where anybody wants too.
Exactly. Just a talking point to distract from DOGE finding 1 billion in waste and or fraud on a survey. Nobody mentioned shutting down National Parks
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:37 pm to John Barron
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Just a talking point to distract from DOGE finding 1 billion in waste and or fraud on a survey.
Why on earth would anyone want to distract from DOGE finding a billion $ in waste/fraud? That NEEDS to be rooted out.
No, nobody is trying to distract from the DOGE finding, John. Don't worry your little head about that.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:50 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:56 pm to 4cubbies
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Does Elon Musk ever substantiate his claims with evidence?
Billions upon billions of dollars in fraud, yet we haven't seen one name, not a single person has been indicted, and it's all "trust me, bro."
I'm starting to lose patience and belief.
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