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re: Elon Musk: “If you have bureaucracy in charge, then what meaning does democracy have?"

Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
Harry bolz jr flicking all kinds of boogers on Trumps desk
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Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
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Corruption and Fraud will not be tolerated anymore.


If Elon Musk were there to ensure that fraudulent spending was not occurring with federal money, then he would have forensic accountants there, not a group of guys that likely have no knowledge of how federal spending is appropriated and financed, signed into law, and administered by federal agencies.

He also wouldn't have open conflicts of interest while doing these things, either.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19488 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Somebody needs to tell Elon we're not a democracy.


That is correct but they are dismantling a Politburo which we sure as hell not supposed to have. That is all,this amounts to. Our government employees and Democrats are operating like Communist. Totally unaccountable to the electorate of the Republic.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Incorrect. The funding was not allocated to commit Fraud. Which is what is occurring. Corruption and Fraud will not be tolerated anymore. You will start to see more Luigi's


The facts one way or the other don’t matter. Polling is on Trump and Musk’s side on these DOGE actions for the time being, and they can continue doing what they want until that changes. Hardly anyone in the public has any understanding of what is or isn’t correct or legal, the exception being political junkies, and no one watches the news anymore to get propagandized.

I don’t think any of this is illegal anyway, but I couldn’t care less about these arguments. He can and will do anything he can get away with, and he should.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25903 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:49 pm to
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Sticking by my assessment of Musk that he’s a below-the-curve Rumble poster.

That makes sense, you are persistently stupid.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:54 pm to
This is really DC's last chance to stop their cold war on the taxpayers and majority of Americas.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:54 pm to
Is this where Elon says something similar to what tens of millions of Americans have been saying for decades and then everyone acts like it's the first time being uttered?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101854 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:56 pm to
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You will start to see more Luigi's




Watch out for flying shells.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:57 pm to
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Is this where Elon says something similar to what tens of millions of Americans have been saying for decades and then everyone acts like it's the first time being uttered?


I think at least 95% of people still have no concept of this. And it probably should stay that way after Musk gets them to understand this one time until this stuff gets jammed through.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8293 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:57 pm to
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So if both parties are moving this direction, we need to make sure we are the ones in power when the shoe drops. I wish I could say I’m joking about all of this.


Who is we? I dont disagree with what you are saying but as both parties align themselves towards authoritarianism then who ever kicks into higher gear should be our enemy..no?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Who is we? I dont disagree with what you are saying but as both parties align themselves towards authoritarianism then who ever kicks into higher gear should be our enemy..no?


Depends. If they’re both moving that way then it would be authoritarian either way, so go with the authoritarian you would rather rule you.
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 4:00 pm
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
2025 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Also, how does someone making a couple hundred thousand per year become millionaires over time? Where are they acquiring their wealth?


That is the $1000 question. Need to leave no stone unturned on these crooks. Both sides of the isle for last 40 years should be getting a financial colonoscopy. If it's all legit, they could have all been billionaires working on Wall Street.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8293 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:02 pm to
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so go with the authoritarian you would rather rule you.


Or fight both.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:03 pm to
Good luck
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
10952 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:04 pm to
No, we are a Republic, not a Bureapublic.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53277 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:11 pm to
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unelected Billionaire running a government department that wasn’t set up by congress that is freezing funding allocated by congress.


Correct. It was set up by Obama. Can you please cite your posts criticizing it when Obama created it?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53277 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:12 pm to
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He also wouldn't have open conflicts of interest while doing these things, either.


What, specifically, is his conflict of interest?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53277 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:13 pm to
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Is this where Elon says something similar to what tens of millions of Americans have been saying for decades and then everyone acts like it's the first time being uttered?


No. It is where morons, like you, melt down about Elon saying something that has been said by tens of millions of Americans.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452329 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 4:15 pm to
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It’s also ironic that youre on here touting cutting spending, when the politics are such that it’s impossible, but now that Trump and Elon are putting in the effort and reveal, your TDS is trying so hard to make light of it.


My policy stance on actual spending cuts hasn't changed. No actual cuts have even occurred to analyze. Some payments were frozen, but the allocations were made, and we're talking small potatoes.

This is also ignoring all the legal challenges that are occurring.
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