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re: Elon Musk Endorses Andrew Yang, cites universal income
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:45 pm to musick
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:45 pm to musick
Musk and others are working feverishly to usurp every commercial driver, eliminating 2 million jobs at minimum. At some point, the rage against the machines and industrialists like Musk will take place.
UBI is their only hope to avoid their own bodies be hung over a bridge.
UBI is their only hope to avoid their own bodies be hung over a bridge.
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Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:47 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Humans take satisfaction in having purpose, and in doing things.
When you give them what they need to survive, without asking them to pay any price, then you leave them with neither.
and doing things/having purpose != putting a roof over your head
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:47 pm to Jake88
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You've never worked your way up from humble beginnings, have you?
While these people certainly exist, they are not the norm.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:48 pm to bmy
quote:What functional American can't put a roof over their head?
and doing things/having purpose != putting a roof over your head
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:49 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:
Humans take satisfaction in having purpose, and in doing things.
When you give them what they need to survive, without asking them to pay any price, then you leave them with neither.
UBI will absolutely create a permanent underclass that is riddled with disease, crime, and dysfunction. It’s a societal trade off.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:49 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Poor people working their way up to the middle class? Happens all the time.
While these people certainly exist, they are not the norm.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:51 pm to Jake88
fricking Musk. How did someone foolish become so rich?
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:55 pm to Jake88
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Poor people working their way up to the middle class? Happens all the time.
A 2012 Pew study found that the largest stagnant group in terms of intergenerational social class change we’re children in the lowest quintile of earned income with nearly half remaining in that lowest 20% through adulthood.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:57 pm to HubbaBubba
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Musk and others are working feverishly to usurp every commercial driver, eliminating 2 million jobs at minimum.
I do not oppose this.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:00 pm to bmy
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what accomplishments?
None at all.
Glad to see you’re waking up to the reality of socialism, bmy.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:03 pm to musick
Yang is correct.
The system does not require the help of all 6 billion.
Billions are just here.
Ive been.on this for years on td.
The system does not require the help of all 6 billion.
Billions are just here.
Ive been.on this for years on td.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:06 pm to Antonio Moss
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UBI will absolutely create a permanent underclass that is riddled with disease, crime, and Dem voters.
Which is why they want it.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:07 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:So, more than half made it higher on the ladder. That ain't bad.
nearly half remaining in that lowest 20% through adulthood.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Even assuming everyone keeps working at their current wages/hours, the argument that UBI will provide economic security for the paycheck-to-paycheck folks is the best. Once a bill passes, every lower-income household renting a property is getting a letter with a big fat 20-30% rent increase. Businesses aren't sitting in a bubble, they're going to race to capture that increased purchasing power. The concept benefits no one.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:46 pm to Jake88
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So, more than half made it higher on the ladder. That ain't bad.
I’d have to go back and look but I think a significant portion of the remaining group - like about 40% of the total - only wind up in the second lowest quintile. And the original group is by far the most stagnant.
It’s really not surprising when you start looking at IQ rates.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 8:57 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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For true UBI to work, you have to provide the amount of money required by law, and that’s it. No other welfare, etc.
It also must include closed borders and be limited to actual citizens. Grant citizenship only to potential contributors to the country.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 9:10 pm to Muleriderhog
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He is sane outside UBI
Wants to lower voting age to 16.
Wants Medicare for all.
Wants to create two new federal holidays.
Wants to make a carbon tax.
Wants to make a Washington DC a state.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 9:30 pm to Antonio Moss
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While these people certainly exist, they are not the norm.
They were the norm of my age group in the deep south.
Maybe not the norm but very common.
Posted on 8/10/19 at 9:47 pm to musick
If the Progressive Globalists can drop around $150k UBI annually on Bass Tiger, leave my retirement investments alone and promise all that gravy until I croak.....bring it!
Posted on 8/10/19 at 10:06 pm to musick
Welp time for PT to have an irrational hatred of Elon
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