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re: Elon Musk comments about layoffs at the federal level, interesting aspect

Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Nomadic Bengal
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 8:54 am to
In fact, he's polluting the shite out of Texas right now.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:01 am to
The problem with Musk’s theory is a lot of government workers are lazy as shite and I’d hesitate to hire them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:02 am to
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In fact, he's polluting the shite out of Texas right now.


Industry requires pollution. Most of us accepted this long ago.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:03 am to
Are you crying?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:03 am to
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The problem with Musk’s theory is a lot of government workers are lazy as shite and I’d hesitate to hire them.


After a year of unemployment for sure.

Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
2012 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:43 am to
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Federal employees have civil service protection and there is a process to fire them. There is also a constitutional property right in their job.



Wrong. Congress controls the purse strings. If they defund an agency, and they do all the time, then you have no choice but to cut people. Laws can be changed. There is no constitutional right to a job if Congress defunds it.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:48 am to
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Most people do not get severances when laid off. Certainly not years.

Layoff in increments, give short severance (two months at most)

Two years severance is beyond ridiculous.


I never gotten a severance.
I was thinking 3 months. But I like 2 months better.
2 years is absolutely beyond ridiculous. Let's just give them a 2 year retirement or vacation. No way.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 9:50 am to
Elon is trying to reduce the impact of a hundred thousand layoffs at once. You can do that via timeline rather than massive severance which would be quite inflationary.

Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:52 am to
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Elon is trying to reduce the impact of a hundred thousand layoffs at once. You can do that via timeline rather than massive severance which would be quite inflationary.

That makes a lot of sense, Roger. :nod:
Posted by Tarps99
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:53 am to
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Same, that's why two years of severance is stupid. .


Just return their “contributions” to the federal retirement system as a monthly payment for 2 years or less depending on contributions.

Another aspect to look at is that there will be whole lot of empty office buildings too depending on how the government morphs with the changes.


All governments need to look at ways to trim the fat. Even local governments should eliminate a few positions to lean up payrolls or reduce hourly rates and salaries which some have gone off the rails.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:56 am to
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Even local governments should eliminate a few positions to lean up payrolls


The elephant in the room is education. Many school budgets are more than municipal budgets.

In Alaska, due to federal mandates it takes almost 20k to educate a student.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10239 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:07 am to
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very smart educated people back into your economy


I disagree with him on this point, most are stupid.

I also think it would be impossible for some of them to function in private enterprise after working in gov sector.


They may be educated, but lacking in self starting original thought.
They know they are smart so probably would resist re-education. Until they got hungry.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:12 am to
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Congress controls the purse strings


We're talking about executive action ITT, not Congress.
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