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Posted on 2/2/14 at 8:42 pm to Sentrius
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Fiscally, I'm opposed to it because it's an impractical bottomless money pit with appeals, court costs, lawyer fees and investigations by the police and prosecutors that consume time and money that all drag on for years.
This is why after five years if the conviction is not overturned.......fry em!
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:15 pm to Sentrius
Lopinto had upset me over a couple issues, but if he pushes this through he will have completely redeemed himself.
Sorry, but I still believe in an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Only thing that can improve this is if they cut out the obscene amount of appeals....especially in cut and dry cases.
Why in the hell should the Boston bomber wait years on death row? That bastard should have already fried.
Sorry, but I still believe in an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Only thing that can improve this is if they cut out the obscene amount of appeals....especially in cut and dry cases.
Why in the hell should the Boston bomber wait years on death row? That bastard should have already fried.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:28 pm to TJG210
Not like anyone gives a shite nor do I know if it's been mentioned, but my sentencing structure would generally be:
1. No death penalty.
2. Murder, child molestation, no doubt violent rapes get life sentence, no parole
3. Legalize drugs
The other generally non-violent crimes I'm basically OK with sentencing wise.
1. No death penalty.
2. Murder, child molestation, no doubt violent rapes get life sentence, no parole
3. Legalize drugs
The other generally non-violent crimes I'm basically OK with sentencing wise.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:33 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:there are non-violent rapes?
violent rapes
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:35 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Why waste the publics money to warehouse these pieces of scum? If you streamline the process, cut out a lot of the fat for the lawyers, the cost-benefit analysis completely flips.
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:38 pm to Tigah in the ATL
I don't consider statutory rape to be violent. 
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:49 pm to Scruffy
I've been doing a little research and reading around after I posted this thread earlier today and what I found was surprising, the death penalty is in a huge crisis right now through unexpected means and avenues particularly from the EU and them putting pressure drug manufacturers that are distancing themselves from the death penalty. They've also donated generously money and grants heavily to non profits and other groups that oppose the death penalty.
This crisis pretty much started when the american company hospira stopped making sodium thiopental in 2011 after stern issues from the Italians since they have a plant in Italy and would be subject to EU export laws.
Rather going for conventional means via innocence projects, appeals, they're doing it by taking away the tools of the executioner. It's why something like this is possible.
This crisis pretty much started when the american company hospira stopped making sodium thiopental in 2011 after stern issues from the Italians since they have a plant in Italy and would be subject to EU export laws.
Rather going for conventional means via innocence projects, appeals, they're doing it by taking away the tools of the executioner. It's why something like this is possible.
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Electric chair could return for executions
Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:58 pm to Sentrius
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It's why something like this is possible.
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Electric chair could return for executions
bringing back these truly barbaric methods of execution will only hasten the end of the death penalty in this country.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:02 am to Draconian Sanctions
Why should these animals deserve any mercy after the truly disgusting acts they commit? This guy mentioned in the story should have to endure unspeakable horror on his way out. Not like he spared that little boy. I hope the lawyers representing him rot in hell alongside him.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:06 am to TJG210
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Why should these animals deserve any mercy after the truly disgusting acts they commit?
#1 they aren't animals, they are human beings
#2 it's a revenge based form of punishment, which in today's day and age is inherently barbaric.
#3 We know for a fact innocent men have been put to death for a murder they didn't commit. Where's your outrage for their murder?
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I hope the lawyers representing him rot in hell alongside him.
Yes heaven forbid someone accused of a crime be given a competent legal defense and their day in court
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
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bringing back these truly barbaric methods of execution will only hasten the end of the death penalty in this country.
Or possibly anti-death penalty groups backingoffs this tactic that I just posted about and go with the lesser evil and more humane method of lethal injection.
That is if a death penalty state is committed to it, and death penalty remains legal.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:08 am to Sentrius
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Or possibly anti-death penalty groups backingoffs this tactic that I just posted about and go with the lesser evil and more humane method of lethal injection.
don't count on it. if a backward state wants to bring back hangings or the guillotine then let them, we'll see how quickly public opinion turns against the death penalty
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:21 am to Tigah in the ATL
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there are non-violent rapes?
That wasn't the point numb nuts. Stop trying so hard.
The point was I wouldn't give a life sentence to a hard to substantiate rape allegation in a perfect world.
But if I was dealing with a no doubt case it would be an automatic life sentence. "No doubt" cases I assume are inherently more violent than the more flimsy cases that some times arise
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 12:27 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
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we'll see how quickly public opinion turns against the death penalty
You assume this would be against the punishment and not the methods of it.
Following your argument of public opinion, a majority of Americans still support the death penalty.
ETA: I'm going to bed, have an important appt in the morning.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 12:24 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:24 am to TJG210
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Why waste the publics money to warehouse these pieces of scum? If you streamline the process, cut out a lot of the fat for the lawyers, the cost-benefit analysis completely flips.
It has nothing to do with cost benefit for me on the death penalty.
I'm not comfortable with the state having the power to kill it's citizens.
And if you are atheist you really shoulkd be against the death penalty
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 12:26 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:47 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Firing Squad FTW. Shooters should be selected from the citizenry at random just like jury duty. The citizenry should be responsible for executing it's criminals. Not the state.
No thanks.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
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#3 We know for a fact innocent men have been put to death for a murder they didn't commit. Where's your outrage for their murder?
It is outrageous, but technology is really catching up to eliminate some of that doubt. What if the death penalty was scaled back and only used in instances like this where there's really no defense? You can throw people like the boston bomber in there as well, it's really no doubt they committed the crime, they should be punished as such.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 1:50 am to TJG210
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It is outrageous, but technology is really catching up to eliminate some of that doubt. What if the death penalty was scaled back and only used in instances like this where there's really no defense? You can throw people like the boston bomber in there as well, it's really no doubt they committed the crime, they should be punished as such.
Honestly, I'd prefer the death penalty over a true life term (no parole, period) - if I were the convict. Strangely though - if my loved one were murdered - I'd prefer to see the bastard fry for the crime even though intellectually I believe he gets off easier that way.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 1:52 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:08 am to infantry1026
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Should bring back public hanging as well
Exactly, it makes a statement on crime and rope is cheap.
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