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re: Editorial by Steinle Jurist makes it clear the jury got it right.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:14 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:14 am to mmcgrath
quote:
1) This Guy was an illegal immigrant
2) His actions directly lead to the death of an innocent citizen
3) He is a 7 time felon that had been deported 5 times
4) If it wasn’t for the liberal sanctuary city he wouldn’t have been there to do shoot her
5) Liberals care more about the rights of non-tax pay illegal immigrants than US citizens
1) Completely irrelevant to the case.
2) I don't think you can say his actions were a "direct" cause. It appears he was just unwrapping something in a cloth.
3) I keep hearing about the felonies. Does anyone have a list?
4) If there was traffic that held up Kate Steinle then she wouldn't have been shot. Irrelevant to her death.
5) We don't care about illegals more. We do care that "conservatives" try to make villains out of anyone to push their agenda.
I am mostly concerned that a "legal" gun owner was so careless with a gun that he left it loaded without a gun lock on the back seat of his car. He is free and clear to get another gun and be just as careless.
- It definitely does impact the case. The guy was “illegal” and shouldn’t even have been in the US. There are garbage cans in his own country to rifle through.
- So a Sig Sauer routinely goes off on their own. Me thinks not. His actions, intentional or not, directly lead to the death of a US citizen. If you can’t see that then there is no help for you.
- Wiki Link that glosses over his criminal record
- You seriously are debating that had SFPD honored the ICE detainer?
- My Issue is 100% Anti-illegal immigration. It has a negative impact on our economy and wastes taxes that US citizens pay. Democrats prefer them for what reason
- Last but not least do you realize who/what was that “legal” gun owner was and what vehicle it came out of?
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Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:03 am to ABearsFanNMS
I see that the Liberals on this board have no response to facts? 
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:05 am to ABearsFanNMS
How do those facts relate to the charges at issue in the trial?
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:10 am to Mo Jeaux
I think that even most of those who are outraged over the verdict would have voted the same as the jury were they on the jury and following the jury instructions.
The jury followed the law and went by the evidence. They didn't allow their emotion or the politics to poison their ruling. I applaud them for that.
The jury followed the law and went by the evidence. They didn't allow their emotion or the politics to poison their ruling. I applaud them for that.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:10 am to MajorTaylor
quote:
The jury followed the law and went by the evidence. They didn't allow their emotion or the politics to poison their ruling. I applaud them for that
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:18 am to MajorTaylor
You and the jurists apparently know nothing about guns.
Guns don't just "go off" on their own.
Besides that, the underlying fact is, if local LEO would have handed him over to the Feds like they were asked, Steinle would be alive today.
Guns don't just "go off" on their own.
Besides that, the underlying fact is, if local LEO would have handed him over to the Feds like they were asked, Steinle would be alive today.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:22 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Mo Jeaux
First off read my earlier posts. Secondly, if the SFPD had honored the ICE detainer there would never had been a death of an innocent citizen and thus no trial!
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:30 am to bmy
quote:No one gives a frick what color his skin is except you, retard.
It's just trumpkins making this about the color of his skin and his country of origin.
quote:Really? Besides the death of Steinle (caused by him), he was deported 5 fricking times. I think that's illegal.
He did nothing wrong.
You are incredibly fricking stupid.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:32 am to MajorTaylor
Sanctuary cities should be ended
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:35 am to MajorTaylor
Why is this jurist editorial being held up as gospel?
This jurist was a San Francisco resident and assuredly a hardcore uber Leftist. Hate to break it to you, but Leftists will, and almost always do, lie through their mother fricking teeth to push a freaking narrative that supports their beliefs and agenda, and any time they want to paint the Right in a bad light.
Whomever this jurist is, I don’t believe their version of events anymore than I believe a CNN/MSNBC/HuffPo/NYT/WaPo/Politico “editorial” headline.
Why in the blue frick are we supposed to believe this person? You Lefties can’t tell the truth to save your goddamn lives.
This jurist was a San Francisco resident and assuredly a hardcore uber Leftist. Hate to break it to you, but Leftists will, and almost always do, lie through their mother fricking teeth to push a freaking narrative that supports their beliefs and agenda, and any time they want to paint the Right in a bad light.
Whomever this jurist is, I don’t believe their version of events anymore than I believe a CNN/MSNBC/HuffPo/NYT/WaPo/Politico “editorial” headline.
Why in the blue frick are we supposed to believe this person? You Lefties can’t tell the truth to save your goddamn lives.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:36 am to ABearsFanNMS
quote:
if the SFPD had honored the ICE detainer there would never had been a death of an innocent citizen and thus no trial!
Well no fricking shite. That’s a complete nonsequitur in respect of my question however.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:40 am to MajorTaylor
NOTHING changes the fact that he was a multi-felon ILLEGAL alien that was protected by EVIL SCUM OF YOUR ILK. Ergo, nothing changes the fact that KATE STEINLE WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY IF NOT FOR LIBERAL MENTAL SICKNESS.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:40 am to mmcgrath
quote:
I am mostly concerned that a "legal" gun owner was so careless with a gun that he left it loaded without a gun lock on the back seat of his car. He is free and clear to get another gun and be just as careless.
The weapon belonged to a Bureau of Land Management agent.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:51 am to Kino74
quote:Yes. And he should have been charged and have restrictions on future gun ownership. At the very least a "3 strikes and you're out" policy should be instituted for people who lose guns this easily.
The weapon belonged to a Bureau of Land Management agent.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:29 am to ABearsFanNMS
quote:
Last but not least do you realize who/what was that “legal” gun owner was and what vehicle it came out of?
A Bureau of Land Management agent, if he had properly secured his weapon Steinle would still be alive.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:30 am to BeefDawg
Well, his argument as to how it is the jury got it right is evidenced based. He cites facts, many of them not widely known.
And if you heard the guy interviewed you would likely find him to be a highly rational and reasonable person. He doesn't at all come across as politically motivated or as politically extreme.
The suggestion that every San Francisco resident or even a large percentage of San Fran residents are irrational uber-Leftists is absurd. Akin to saying that every LSU fan is a racist redneck who drives a jacked-up diesel pickup with rubber testicles hanging from the trailer hitch.
And if you heard the guy interviewed you would likely find him to be a highly rational and reasonable person. He doesn't at all come across as politically motivated or as politically extreme.
The suggestion that every San Francisco resident or even a large percentage of San Fran residents are irrational uber-Leftists is absurd. Akin to saying that every LSU fan is a racist redneck who drives a jacked-up diesel pickup with rubber testicles hanging from the trailer hitch.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:34 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Yes. And he should have been charged and have restrictions on future gun ownership. At the very least a "3 strikes and you're out" policy should be instituted for people who lose guns this easily.
quote:STFU you retard.
The gun used by Garcia Zarate had been stolen in downtown San Francisco from a Bureau of Land Management (BLM)ranger's personal vehicle on June 27, 2015, according to the Bureau of Land Management.[5] The ranger testified at trial that he had left the weapon holstered and unsecured in a backpack under the front seat of his personal vehicle while he went to dinner with his family.[11] The car's window had been broken.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:38 am to MajorTaylor
Progressive Moral and intellectual decay hidden behind the veneer of Legal Formalism. You can and will ALWAYS find a justification for any and every Progressive cause. Guys like you bury the bodies that are the end result of Fundamentalist Progressivism - that’s your role. Modern day Walter Durantys arguing that it’s all good man....
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:46 am to mmcgrath
Yes. And he should have been charged and have restrictions on future gun ownership.
So just to be clear, you're for bans on government personnel from weapons. Too bad you leftists don't feel that way about multi felon illegal aliens. It's always some one else's fault.
So just to be clear, you're for bans on government personnel from weapons. Too bad you leftists don't feel that way about multi felon illegal aliens. It's always some one else's fault.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:11 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
Well no fricking shite. That’s a complete nonsequitur in respect of my question however.
Oh did I trigger you. Maybe you should read my initial post in this thread and see my position on that specific matter. Maybe you would realize that other subtopics arose during the discussion and you should keep up? Is that too much to ask?
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