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re: Editorial by Steinle Jurist makes it clear the jury got it right.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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2) Why are you guys rallying around this case? Regardless of the verdict, it was a tragedy that didn't need to happen. Why is it important for you guys to defend the mexican?
It's just a tragedy. It's just trumpkins making this about the color of his skin and his country of origin. He did nothing wrong.. but they want him to hang because a pretty blonde white girl died.
They also desperately want him to be a violent criminal to help further their political agenda.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 12:01 am
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Posted on 12/10/17 at 12:54 am to bmy
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It's just a tragedy.
Yes it is, albeit completely avoidable.
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It's just trumpkins making this about the color of his skin and his country of origin. He did nothing wrong
As soon as he set foot in the good old USA without the proper documentation *all FIVE times* he did something wrong.
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They also desperately want him to be a violent criminal to help further their political agenda
I don't care one way or another what he is. As it turns out, he was probably just a clumsy vagrant who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
What benefit to American society is a homeless illegal alien rummaging through San Francisco's garbage?
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:05 am to MajorTaylor
As a conservative, wall supporting, immigration reform wanting, illegal immigrant hating, trump supporter, it amazes me that people can’t separate “he shouldn’t have been here” from “1st degree murder”. Just cause the POS should have been in Tijuana somewhere doesn’t mean the he’s a murderer. Wanna blame somebody for the verdict? Blame the prosecution or the conservative media who never once mentioned the word “richochet” until after the trial. Now she was almost 100ft from him? frick them. frick him, drop him of on a deserted island, but frick Hannity and all the asshats that sold the “cold blood” line. That’s no better than CNN or MSNBC
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:10 am to MajorTaylor
Dear Facebook,
I'm killing myself now because I'm a naive halfwit, and the world has become too difficult.
Bye.
I'm killing myself now because I'm a naive halfwit, and the world has become too difficult.
Bye.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:15 am to MajorTaylor
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* The prosecution was unable to establish any motive on the part of Zarate and Zarate no recorded history of violence.
* the prosecution was unable to establish that the firing of the weapon was intentional.
* The prosecution was unable to establish reckless disregard.
I can't keep up with your letters and stars, but are these conclusions beg the questions being asked. And motive isn't an element of the crime.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:19 am to Schmelly
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As a conservative, wall supporting, immigration reform wanting, illegal immigrant hating, trump supporter, it amazes me that people can’t separate “he shouldn’t have been here” from “1st degree murder”. Just cause the POS should have been in Tijuana somewhere doesn’t mean the he’s a murderer. Wanna blame somebody for the verdict? Blame the prosecution or the conservative media who never once mentioned the word “richochet” until after the trial. Now she was almost 100ft from him? frick them. frick him, drop him of on a deserted island, but frick Hannity and all the asshats that sold the “cold blood” line. That’s no better than CNN or MSNBC
well said friend
Posted on 12/10/17 at 1:49 am to reverendotis
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I don't care one way or another what he is. As it turns out, he was probably just a clumsy vagrant who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
What benefit to American society is a homeless illegal alien rummaging through San Francisco's garbage?
What benefit to American society are the fat rednecks that make up a large part of Trumps base? Both are a net negative for society. But trumpkins are cool with them despite being a far bigger drain on the economy.. they dgaf.. because they are white and from this country
He was in this country without proper documentation and trumpkins are openly calling for him to be murdered
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:03 am to bmy
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fat rednecks
Man, you really come across as a pencil necked twat. Need to work on your e-persona.
It was in fact, a five times deported homeless Mexican that shot this poor girl, not a fat redneck.
If you want to defend illegal immigration, do it on behalf of the mother working two jobs to support three kids. Don't do it on behalf of a bum who was rifling through trash when he accidentally killed somebody.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:46 am to bmy
he had 7 felony convictions - he may be innocent of murder, as well as not guilty
but he should not be wandering the streets of any sanctuary city in the U S
but he should not be wandering the streets of any sanctuary city in the U S
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 2:48 am
Posted on 12/10/17 at 7:54 am to MajorTaylor
Thank you for the thread.
quote:I had no idea there was video footage. If this is true it should have never been prosecuted. I am surprised the jury gave him the gun possession charge.
* security camera video shows the gun go off in "less than two seconds. maybe less than one second", according to the alternate jurist who saw the video, after Zarate picked up the wrapped bundle containing the gun. He wasn't brandishing it, playing with it, or pointing it at anyone.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:36 am to MajorTaylor
I agree that more than likely the prosecution over charged and the verdict given the charges were correct. However, it doesn’t negate the following:
1) This Guy was an illegal immigrant
2) His actions directly lead to the death of an innocent citizen
3) He is a 7 time felon that had been deported 5 times
4) If it wasn’t for the liberal sanctuary city he wouldn’t have been there to do shoot her
5) Liberals care more about the rights of non-tax pay illegal immigrants than US citizens
1) This Guy was an illegal immigrant
2) His actions directly lead to the death of an innocent citizen
3) He is a 7 time felon that had been deported 5 times
4) If it wasn’t for the liberal sanctuary city he wouldn’t have been there to do shoot her
5) Liberals care more about the rights of non-tax pay illegal immigrants than US citizens
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why are you guys rallying around this case?
Perhaps it’s because Wall-ers (including Trump) are using it as a rally cry.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:44 am to bmy
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It's just trumpkins making this about the color of his skin and his country of origin.
Please show where any logical person brought up “the color of his skin”? Why do you try to interject race into this debate?
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:47 am to DEG
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Perhaps it’s because Wall-ers (including Trump) are using it as a rally cry.
So please explain your stance on:
1) How would you protect the border?
2) Do you not believe that immigration should be regulated?
3) If not what is your logic behind it and how is that good for the actual tax paying citizens of the USA?
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:52 am to ABearsFanNMS
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1) This Guy was an illegal immigrant
2) His actions directly lead to the death of an innocent citizen
3) He is a 7 time felon that had been deported 5 times
4) If it wasn’t for the liberal sanctuary city he wouldn’t have been there to do shoot her
5) Liberals care more about the rights of non-tax pay illegal immigrants than US citizens
1) Completely irrelevant to the case.
2) I don't think you can say his actions were a "direct" cause. It appears he was just unwrapping something in a cloth.
3) I keep hearing about the felonies. Does anyone have a list?
4) If there was traffic that held up Kate Steinle then she wouldn't have been shot. Irrelevant to her death.
5) We don't care about illegals more. We do care that "conservatives" try to make villains out of anyone to push their agenda.
I am mostly concerned that a "legal" gun owner was so careless with a gun that he left it loaded without a gun lock on the back seat of his car. He is free and clear to get another gun and be just as careless.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:56 am to ABearsFanNMS
1) bolster border patrol
2) yes
Don’t overthink my post. I was simply answering Hailto’s question, which wasn’t intended to take a position for or against the wall.
2) yes
Don’t overthink my post. I was simply answering Hailto’s question, which wasn’t intended to take a position for or against the wall.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:58 am to mmcgrath
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I had no idea there was video footage.
From what I understand, the video was from an adjacent pier, not the pier where the shooting took place, and therefore very grainy and inconclusive.
I cannot find what his 7 felonies were. Anybody know?
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:58 am to MajorTaylor
There needs to be consequences for killing someone, even if it was unintentional.
"Involuntary manslaughter usually refers to an unintentional killing that results from recklessness or criminal negligence, or from an unlawful act that is a misdemeanor or low-level felony (such as a DUI)."
Him being a felon and in the country illegal should fit within the "unlawful act"
"Involuntary manslaughter usually refers to an unintentional killing that results from recklessness or criminal negligence, or from an unlawful act that is a misdemeanor or low-level felony (such as a DUI)."
Him being a felon and in the country illegal should fit within the "unlawful act"
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:03 am to ABearsFanNMS
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5) Liberals care more about the rights of non-tax pay illegal immigrants than US citizens
This is what this thread is really about, as well as the opportunity to give the OP and their ilk to mock anyone who points this out.
To anyone with a brain, this person should not have been here. Well, he was here, and committed involuntary manslaughter. He was guilty, yet the Progs are rallying around him, because well, they are Progs. Those of you who aren't mentally ill can't grasp it.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:06 am to bmy
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It's just trumpkins making this about the color of his skin and his country of origin
Oh look, another mentally ill moron mocking anyone with common sense.
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He did nothing wrong.
Other than being in a country illegally then committing involuntary manslaughter, yeah, he's perfect!
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but they want him to hang because a pretty blonde white girl died.
You people really are sick. I mean just demented with your hatred of your fellow Americans.
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They also desperately want him to be a violent criminal to help further their political agenda.
Nah. Most normal folks like me just want to see people come here legally, pay taxes, and follow the laws.
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Never let a good tragedy go to waste
From the mentally ill liars that brought you "white hispanic" "hands up don't shoot" "I can't breathe", and hundreds of other fake crimes, this is pure irony.
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