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re: East Baton Rouge Parish Metro Council are looking to annex more land into the city of BR

Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Yeah, those two situations are not comparable at all but please continue your hissy fit.

we were 'membering' dude, but please, melt
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138181 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Why should you be able to vote on whether others want to incorporate?

People have a right to self determination.



The fact that some legislator from Bunkie or Minden gets to vote on the approval of St. George is absolutely absurd.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:13 pm to
What he did on his own time is up to him and his wife, and between them and God. Also, there's no paper trail proving Vitter wore a diaper or anything like that (though we do have call logs from the alleged madam).

The Council on Aging misappropriated millions of dollars of state and local taxpayer funds and donated moneys. They did so while violating campaign ethics laws to campaign for candidates who would be charged with regulating them. Oh, and board members wrote themselves into wills in order to provide themselves with extra income. It's blatant, wanton corruption. The organization exists to steal from the public, buy votes, grant cushy jobs to the relatives of politicians, and to campaign and commit voter fraud for the democratic party. We have all of this on paper. These people should be in prison.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41900 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:13 pm to
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if i'm affected by your proposed move, i should absolutely be able to vote


No, that's not how it works.

If you were able to vote in every election that somehow impacted you then you'd be voting all the time and in other cities and states.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138181 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:13 pm to
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we were 'membering' dude, but please, melt

Hissy fit continued
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:14 pm to
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i'm affected by your proposed move, i should absolutely be able to vote


Nope.

We're all affected by the actions of neighboring localities but borders exist for a reason. I guess you should have thought about the consequences of continually voting for terrible local politicians and policies.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57050 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:16 pm to
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you say that and yet i bet you don't think i should be able to vote on your move, even though it would completely affect me as i live about 100 yards from the proposed city


Do you live in the unincorporated area? Yes or no.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:25 pm to
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We're all affected by the actions of neighboring localities but borders exist for a reason.


In this case, the city and parish merged their governments, making the annexation of land largely unimportant. The boundaries were gerry-mandered to comply with the Federal Voting Rights Act because the DOJ has to approve any annexations that could dilute minority voting power. That regulation is idiotic because the governments are now merged, so further annexations by the city have exactly zero effect on minority voting power. The only difference between properties in and out of the city is who provides their fire and police protection. DPW, Parks, Libraries, Water, council, voting is all the same (except for the gerry-mandered borders for the CATS election which levied a tax on the whole parish, but I digress)

But, for this reason, annexations largely ceased up until a couple years ago when to combat the St. George movement, the city convinced enough adjacent commercial property owners to request annexation so that the city could add Laberge, portions of the Mall of Louisiana, and the hospitals to the city without actually adding any people. Expanding the city limits without adding people doesn't require DOJ approval. Those newly annexed properties thus wouldn't be providing sales tax revenue to any potential St. George government, meaning it's tax model would have to be rethought in order to deliver on its proposed independent (and hopefully superior) school district. This round of annexation is taking it another step farther, adding the shopping centers around Seigan Lane while once again, avoiding annexing any actual people.

What is being done is nothing but political gamesmanship to thwart the people's ability to govern themselves, just as the consolidation of the city/parish government did to thwart Baton Rouge's ability to govern itself.

What needs to happen is this:
the Parish/city government needs to split.
The City needs to annex the rest of the developed areas south of the city and get the DOJ approval to do so.
The school board (which can remain parish wide) needs to build more schools in the St. George area and try to get more neighborhood involvement in them.

Unfortunately, that would be logical and benefit everyone, so it will never happen.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:36 pm to
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I didn't sign the petition last time around but I will this time. If anything, we need to disassociate the parish government from BR City
quote:

I'd bet 50 bucks that Chauna Banks's dumbass asks if there is a way to annex portions of LP and AP since EBRP residents are moving there.


I've always said that Broome is so militant towards the biggest tax base in EBR she will either inadvertently create St. George or she will drive them out of EBR.

Easily the worst mayor EBR has ever had and we still have people defending her. Beyond pathetic.

Kip Holden needs to come back.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:40 pm to
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if i'm affected by your proposed move, i should absolutely be able to vote


Bro, this is literally something an authoritarian fascist would say or at least a pleb who wants to be ruled by one.

There's multiple towns, parishes and neighboring states doing things that affects us all daily, still doesn't mean we should get a say in their matters.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:42 pm to
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member when david vitter used to wear diapers?


And this affected my wallet how? Did it break a law or misuse any tax dollars?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Did it break a law


solicitation for sex
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misuse any tax dollars

Nope
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:49 pm to
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solicitation for sex


Victimless crime.

Selling sex and buying sex is an act of commerce as old as history itself. Uptight holy roller bible thumping puritans don't give a shite though.

I bet Machine is the type of liberal who's down with legalized prostitution though.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:55 pm to
Agreed. I'm on your side Clark
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Do we really need 64 parishes in 2017?

no, but combining parishes would mean less government jobs

good luck with that
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:56 pm to
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no, but combining parishes would mean less government jobs


And less seats in the legislature.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:57 pm to
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no, but combining parishes would mean less government jobs


And less seats in the legislature.


Not necessarily.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112879 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:58 pm to
And when they do this, STGFD should refuse to respond to any calls in the annexed areas (and that is including L'auberge, OLOL and MOL).

In their effort to avoid St. George, they are fricking over one of the best FDs in the country by starving it of tax revenue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:00 pm to
combining parishes that are urban/rural and white/black would be about as fun as cancer
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Not necessarily.


I guess not. I just assumed if we started merging parishes, we should also merge legislative districts (especially the House)
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