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re: 'Due process' was stripped from illegals by President Clinton & Congress in the 1990s
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:19 am to TBoy
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:19 am to TBoy
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No. In that situation the government is not depriving anyone of a right to life, liberty or property.
Why is illegally occupying my house any different than illegally occupying the country?
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:19 am to texag7
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SlowFlowPro
This guy will break his back to resist any Trump does.
He's ravaged with TDS. It's pathetic.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:20 am to BTROleMisser
Tboy is a retard.
He is never right.
He is never right.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Congress cannot "strip" a fundamental Constitutional right. Only amending the Constitution can do so.
They can sure warp it though. Gun owners would like as strict a reading on the constitution as criminal illegals are getting from leftist judges.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:22 am to cajunangelle
SFP destroyed
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:23 am to BTROleMisser
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He's ravaged with TDS. It's pathetic.
Where did I mention Trump ITT?
I don't even know if I directly mentioned anything related to the trump admin, policy implementation, etc., ITT
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:27 am to dgnx6
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No one gave a flying frick when Bush or Obama did it.
Also wrong
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:28 am to CleverUserName
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Gun owners would like as strict a reading on the constitution as criminal illegals are getting from leftist judges.
They've gotten it.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:41 am to LSUconvert
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They've gotten it.
Literally hundreds of infringements says you’re wrong.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Aliens as in people allowed in through proper channels. Illegal aliens , terrorist or people deemed foreign invaders seems a bit different, would you agree or not?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:45 am to Vacherie Saint
That We the People couldn’t possibly mean the actual citizens of the country that could vote legally for their leaders could it ?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:51 am to troyt37
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Literally hundreds of infringements says you’re wrong.
I think it's pretty clear from your messages here that you're just shite at reading comprehension.
I'm so glad it's not you who gets to decide what words mean.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:57 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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So, now we're back to the retarded logic that Biden can bring in 20 million illegals by breaking laws with no due process for the citizens whose cities and neighborhoods they ruin, but Trump has to hold 20 million individual trials to deport them.
Indeed telling how consistently selective some of our posters have been when compelled to speak up for the rule of law.
Almost seems as if their own political biases play a role.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 11:58 am to cajunangelle
Clinton was the last dem with any shred of common sense.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:03 pm to FourThinInches
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So congress and executive passed this, but judicial can deny it?? What happened to separation of powers?
well we have rules to how constitutional amendments can be amended. So in the situation he is talking about, its moot what congress and the executive say
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Due process can be as simple as:
“Juan Pablo we believe you did not enter the country legally. How do you respond? Can you provide proof of your legal status? No? Then we have a duty to deport you.”
That’s all the due process that would be required. And it’s fricking retarded that anyone is arguing otherwise.
“Juan Pablo we believe you did not enter the country legally. How do you respond? Can you provide proof of your legal status? No? Then we have a duty to deport you.”
That’s all the due process that would be required. And it’s fricking retarded that anyone is arguing otherwise.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:43 pm to LSUconvert
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I think it's pretty clear from your messages here that you're just shite at reading comprehension.
I'm so glad it's not you who gets to decide what words mean.
The fact that thousands of cumulative years of Ivy League education cannot correctly determine the definition of infringement, or understand that you cannot bestow Constitutional rights to millions of criminal invaders proves it is someone exactly like me that needs to decide some of this shite. If you want to keep the country, that is. I realize some of you want to destroy this country, so you can do socialism correctly... this time.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:05 pm to ManBearSharkReb
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Due process can be as simple as: “Juan Pablo we believe you did not enter the country legally. How do you respond? Can you provide proof of your legal status? No? Then we have a duty to deport you.” That’s all the due process that would be required. And it’s fricking retarded that anyone is arguing otherwise.
And in many situations that’s pretty much exactly what happens. In many removal processes the burden of proving lawful presence is on the person who is suspected of being present without authority. If that person has some kind of admission status documents, they are given the opportunity to produce them. If they cannot, they are removed,
And that IS a process. In many situations that’s all the process that is due.
Consider now the case of the guy who was taken and sent to prison in El Salvador. He had an order of a federal court authorizing his presence in the United States. If he was afforded even the most meager process (“Can you provide proof of your legal status?”), he would have produced the federal court order, and he would not have been removed.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:32 pm to troyt37
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bullshite. Someone breaks in your house, telling them to GTFO and you are violating their rights? That's lawyer/judge bullshite.
Well, I didn't say that. I was referencing the arguments that sending a non citizen back to their home country against their will is not depriving them of their liberty.
We are talking about what the government is allowed to do, not what you can do on your own personal property. You can clearly evict trespassers....but you can't make them go to some other specific place.
And Arkansaa stand your ground laws have very little to do with natural human rights.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:33 pm to LawTalkingGuy
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but you can't make them go to some other specific place.
So we just push them into the ocean?
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