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Drug legalization not working out well at all in Oregon

Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:51 pm
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EUGENE, Ore.—Soon after Oregon became the first state to decriminalize all drugs, Officer Jose Alvarez stopped arresting people for possession and began giving out tickets with the number for a rehab helpline.

Most of the people smoking fentanyl or meth on this city’s streets balled them up and tossed them onto the ground.

“Those tickets frankly seemed like a waste of time,” said Alvarez, who stopped issuing them a few months after the law went into effect.

Nearly three years into an experiment that proponents hoped would spark a nationwide relaxation of drug laws, many in Oregon have turned against the decriminalization initiative known as Measure 110, which passed with 58% support in 2020.

People sprawled on sidewalks and using fentanyl with no fear of consequence have become a common sight in cities such as Eugene and Portland. Business owners and local leaders are upset, but so are liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help. In reality, few drug users are taking advantage of new state-funded rehabilitation programs.

Change appears likely. A coalition of city officials, police chiefs and district attorneys recently called on the state legislature to recriminalize hard drugs. A measure to do so is in the works for next year’s ballot. A recent poll found the majority of Oregonians support the idea.

The fundamental problem, according to law-enforcement officers and researchers, is that the threat of jail time hasn’t been replaced with a new incentive for people struggling with addiction to seek treatment. Some 6,000 tickets have been issued for drug possession since decriminalization went into effect in 2021, but just 92 people have called and completed assessments needed to connect them to services, according to the nonprofit that operates the helpline. The only penalty for those who don’t call is a $100 fine, which is rarely enforced.

Before the law went into effect, people caught with small amounts of drugs were typically given a choice of court-mandated rehab or criminal sanctions such as jail time or probation.

“It was not a crazy thing to try at all, but I think they misunderstood addiction,” said Keith Humphreys, a Stanford professor who has studied the measure. “They really had the assumption that if you decriminalize, people would come rushing in saying, ‘Please, give me treatment,’ but addiction is not like cancer where people crawl through broken glass to get treatment.”

The number of fatal overdoses in Oregon during the 12 months that ended in May rose 23% from the same period a year earlier to 1,500, according to preliminary federal data. That is the third-highest increase in the nation, behind Washington and Nevada.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Drug legalization not working out well at all in Oregon


No one could have predicted that
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45172 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:52 pm to
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In reality, few drug users are taking advantage of new state-funded rehabilitation programs.


You don’t say.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7916 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:55 pm to
Idiots
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1582 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:58 pm to
on the contrary, it's working out exactly as planned
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67768 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 12:58 pm to
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I think they misunderstood addiction,”



it's like they never met an addict
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Business owners and local leaders are upset, but so are liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help.

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”It was not a crazy thing to try at all, but I think they misunderstood addiction,” said Keith Humphreys

In today’s episode of “liberals are stupid people”
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3899 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Change appears likely. A coalition of city officials, police chiefs and district attorneys recently called on the state legislature to recriminalize hard drugs. A measure to do so is in the works for next year’s ballot. A recent poll found the majority of Oregonians support the idea


My guess is when push comes to shove, they don’t vote to overturn this law. Typical leftist
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:07 pm to
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few drug users are taking advantage of new state-funded rehabilitation programs.


Shocking. Usually addicts are super pumped about getting help with their addiction.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:07 pm to
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Drug legalization not working out well at all in Oregon

"Like the Democrats say about socialism, we'll do it better than the others"
- Ohio
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6971 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:08 pm to
Somebody needed to do the experiment so the rest of us could see the result. I’m glad it was only carried out in Oregon before other states rushed to do it
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:09 pm to
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Somebody needed to do the experiment so the rest of us could see the result.


No one is paying attention to the negatives.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63254 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:14 pm to
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People sprawled on sidewalks and using fentanyl with no fear of consequence have become a common sight in cities such as Eugene and Portland.


It doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing proposition. While alcohol is obviously legal, municipalities still pass ordinances regarding public consumption and public intoxication. If these people are dead set on killing themselves or being lushes, they should do so away from the public or in a jail cell (or, preferably, court-mandated rehab/mental health facility).
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:22 pm to
Well there used to be a huge number of supporters of drug legalization on this very board. Arguments about how this would not work were not listened to.

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Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:22 pm to
4Chubbies supports shite like this.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5565 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:31 pm to
add the state of Oregon to the list of states not to visit.

recently watched a Youtube video of a young couple visiting from, i recall Michigan, parked their car in a parking garage and next morning found a window broken and someone had rifled through their camping gear.

moved the car to a different garage and next day the camping gear and other items were missing along with more broken windows.

good news is they were able to depart Oregon with a running vehicle and their lives in tack.



Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:36 pm to
Although I wasn’t a huge fan originally, I’d rather see a drug court route than complete legalization. Still arrest, but give them the opportunity to have it expunged upon completion of treatment and a probationary period.

I’m OK with either legalizing or handling weed possession in a non-custodial manner by police. though (ticket/citation with no booking).
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64314 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:47 pm to
Shock face.
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
1874 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:51 pm to
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liberal voters who hoped decriminalization would lead to more people getting help

Dumbasses.
Most addicts only want help after they're buried under a mountain of legal problems, fines and realize they've lost all income opportunities.
No legal problems? No incentive to clean up.

Liberals love using punishment for behavior modification, I don't get why they think it won't work with criminals and addicts?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260206 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 1:53 pm to
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It doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing proposition. While alcohol is obviously legal, municipalities still pass ordinances regarding public consumption and public intoxication. If these people are dead set on killing themselves or being lushes, they should do so away from the public or in a jail cell (or, preferably, court-mandated rehab/mental health facility).


The problem is letting homeless and drug users literally camp out and loiter on public ground.
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