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re: Dr. Steve Turley with a really good video that explains the FTX corruption.

Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:48 pm to
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How does that work with private donations?





when recipients of laundered money donate that same money..


what other intellectually corrupt questions do you have?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:52 pm to
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Assuming you’re referring to ftx, which is the topic of this thread, the missing billions currently appears to be the result of massive fraud and in some cases straight up misappropriation, not laundering.

early take seems you are doing work on this caper done by who WE DO NOT KNOW

independent views - no involvement by virtue of they may be involved
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:56 pm to
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when recipients of laundered money donate that same money..

Are you saying that a major international effort of small donations mostly involves each of those donors to have received laundered money? How does THAT work, exactly?

Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
3131 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:03 pm to
Vindman Rule...hearsay is now evidence.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:06 pm to
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early take seems you are doing work on this caper done by who WE DO NOT KNOW independent views - no involvement by virtue of they may be involved


Early take: word salad.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Are you saying that a major international effort of small donations mostly involves each of those donors to have received laundered money? How does THAT work, exactly?


And it’s sent to a Ukraine bank account then has to get out of that…a second laundering?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:08 pm to
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How about we American's just ask for a full transparent audit of the entire $90 plus billion sent to Ukraine thus far?


Lolololol
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38423 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:27 pm to
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Yes and the 2 have nothing to do with each other. The scale alone doesn't work. The charity handed like $100M max. You're still missing 80-90% of the money FTX moved to Alameda.

Y'all keep screaming there is no evidence of US funds being funneled back to politicians but this is real early in the process. Do you have unequivocal proof that it didn't happen? No - absolutely not. Strange hill to die on so early in a fraudulent investigation (assuming the Democrats allow an investigation to take place).
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7327 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:33 pm to
anyone that looks at that "CEO" and says that is someone who I want to invest my money in and he should be CEO deserves to lose their money.

Dude looks dumb as hell and should not even be allowed to count pennies much less run a crypto exchange.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Y'all keep screaming there is no evidence of US funds being funneled back to politicians but this is real early in the process. Do you have unequivocal proof that it didn't happen?


This is an example of a complete misunderstanding of citing and relying on evidence v speculation.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63805 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:37 pm to
I'd like to know how he got his initial funding. The arbitrage trade story smells fishy.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:39 pm to
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Dude looks dumb as hell


He’s objectively intelligent on paper, but we are in the middle of an iq bubble.

However, I have a strong inclination to consider anyone involved in crypto losing everything is well deserved since the whole thing is an obvious ponzi.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Early take: word salad.

you are the one requiring special care
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:44 pm to
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This is an example of a complete misunderstanding of citing and relying on evidence v speculation.

doing unprecedented level of work on this one
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Do you have unequivocal proof that it didn't happen?

Do you understand the logical issues of proving a negative?

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:11 pm to
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I'd like to know how he got his initial funding. The arbitrage trade story smells fishy.


Agreed. If it was that easy and that well-known, someone else would’ve done it. Plus, it sounds like it hasn’t worked since then. Otherwise Alameda wouldn’t be bankrupt.
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2431 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:16 pm to
Thanks for sharing…
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38423 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Do you understand the logical issues of proving a negative?
Someone had better get on it then. I've seen way more written about how it was done that just a; nuh-uh!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:31 pm to
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I've seen way more written about how it was done

Nothing of substance about Ukraine "investing" in FTX, though.

You've likely seen that FTX handled trasnfering donations to Ukraine into crypto, but that isn't related to the alleged scheme b/c it's not nearly big enough.

So, other than the charity association, do you have?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38423 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:41 pm to
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Nothing of substance about Ukraine "investing" in FTX, though.
Way more than that if you go look for it.
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