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re: DOJ Again Refuses to Give Judge Boasberg Sensitive Information on National Security

Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:42 am to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7073 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:42 am to
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There’s a chicken or the egg problem with that statistic.


Actually, no... there is a law fare problem

Trump is doing nothing different than Clinton or Obama regarding termination etc

Explain how every judge happens to be appointed by a democrat? How about those statistics?

Tell me every termination in the private sector that results in a TRO - never happens - it is a damages claim for employment breach not a mandatory return to work

The stupid part is that you know or should know and yet you and sfp continue down this road white knighting for all of this - frankly it's embarrassing
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7073 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:45 am to
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WTF are you even talking about? You think "co-equal" means that any singular wannabe district court judge with a conflict of personal interest can immediately, on a whim, without so much as hearing counter arguments, shutdown operations of entire divisions of the Executive Branch?


You just know sfp is in his basement fapping to this diatribe
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31951 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:08 am to
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Theoretically nothing, but these decisions are reviewed at light speed.



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For instance this TDA one is being heard Monday


A week is light speed?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31951 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:10 am to
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Someone can be here legally and abiding by immigration law, and Little Marco can still seek to have them deported by writing a little letter. We’ll see how this shakes out.


Yes. All non-citizens are here at the pleasure of the government and can be deported for almost any reason. 'Twas always thus.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25231 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:15 am to
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A week is light speed?


Now add to that the "the military must have trannies" judge, the "you can't close USAID without permission from one of their officials" judget, etc etc etc.

A president has 208 weeks to govern. If you can take out 20 cumulative weeks that nullifies their policies in a measurable way. And there's no downside to them; win or lose they still impacted policy and they never face consequences for shitty, personal, politically driven opinions.

Imagine how dysfunctional our government would be if any single congressman or senator could just say "no" and delay something for weeks and months. If AI is correct there are over 600 District Judges in the US, and if they can't show restraint with this power it needs to be removed.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130894 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:48 am to
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You think "co-equal" means that any singular wannabe district court judge with a conflict of personal interest can immediately, on a whim, without so much as hearing counter arguments, shutdown operations of entire divisions of the Executive Branch?

The answer is yes, and Congress is the one who granted the lower courts that jurisdiction
Negative.
Congress established the courts. SCOTUS created the rule under FDR.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
2250 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:03 am to
Boasberg has demonstrated that he cant be trusted.


So why is he a judge let alone given security information.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1355 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:22 am to
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Say a President determines the Democratic party is a terrorist organization and jails their members in Congress before an important vote. You think our system is built to say "oh shucks, we didn't think of that. Oopsie. Wish we had a system of review" ?


He could only jail members of the Democratic Party that were non-citizens. So, of those able to vote the number would be zero.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70669 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:24 am to
If the left really thought he was disregarding the Constitution it would be plastered everywhere every minute and cries of impeachment would be deafening.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:01 am to
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A week is light speed?


In litigation that is light speed.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75393 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:37 am to
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The declaration is what makes it so.


There is no ruling in this issue by the SCOTUS but i strongly disagree with your interpretation.

1. The statutory language implies in a sense of a declared war there are 2 conditions for this statue to apply.

There has to be an invasion or predatory incursion : threat thereoff by a foreign nation or government

AND

the president has to declare that public of the event publicly.

Those are independent clauses implying 2 separate conditions.


2. Statues must be interpreted in a light what would result in absurd consequences. Under your interpretation of the law the president could declare an invasion by any country regardless of the facts of the situation and begin deporting all aliens, legal or otherwise, and none of that could not be challenged in a court of law.

3. It’s extremely unlikely this terrorist group would qualify as a “foreign nation or government.”

Trump is trying to apply this statute because of it applies, he doesn’t have to give any due process to anyone he accuses of being in TDA. if they’re venezuelan he can deport them no questions asked no challenges.



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