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re: DOJ Again Refuses to Give Judge Boasberg Sensitive Information on National Security

Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32015 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:51 pm to
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Imagine if the Taliban, after the Afghan withdrawal, had sent those al-qaeda fighters they released from prison to our southern border,


How do we know they didn’t? There were definitely afghans caught at the southern border. And they only catch a small percentage of the border crossers.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8679 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Possibly. But the Proclamation made it clear that the gang was state sponsored.
Also clear - only those that are members of the state spobsored terrorist gangs are subject to the AEA, so your point abiut rounding up all Venezuelans was bullshite hyperbole.


"proclamation made it clear that the gang was state sponsored"....oh sponsored by what state? Venezuela?

Cool, then in that case the AEA allows for rounding up of all Venezuelans. Thats how the AEA works.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8679 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:54 pm to
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Only those, like yourself, that want to see him defeated, think he will ignore the courts.


you can dig through this thread and others and find lots of maga who think the courts are corrupt and want Trump to defy the courts orders. That isn't some dem thing....
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32015 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:55 pm to
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would we have just scooped them up and sent them to El Salvador?


Are you aware that TdA operates in El Salvador and they are also wanted by the government there?

But even so, I would have no issue sending illegal border crossers to another country for detention purposes. Why is that a problem?
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8679 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:56 pm to
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criminal illegal aliens dont have the constitutional rights of a citizen. Also, judicial overreach is the opposite of small government.



please read the 14th amendment slowly and carefully. All persons have the right to due process of the law
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32015 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:58 pm to
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He literally is. They are the goon squad of his own personal cartel, Cartel de los Soles. He dropped this filth off on our doorstep, and Biden thanked him by lifting sanctions.


Been saying this the whole thread. But Muh Regular Street Crimes
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4936 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:59 pm to
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please read the 14th amendment slowly and carefully. All persons have the right to due process of the law


citizens

Nobody involved in writing the 14th amendment ever thought the US would be run by people stupid enough to open the border wide for everybody else's human debris.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:05 pm to
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please read the 14th amendment slowly and carefully. All persons have the right to due process of the law




Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
3697 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:08 pm to
They should also notate in the responses.

“we feel it is a conflict of interest to share national security issues with terrorist that your daughter helps avoid the law”

Blah blah blah

And see if he backs down once it’s on public record and court filings
Posted by seedmonster77
Member since Feb 2025
83 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:09 pm to
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131104 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:22 pm to
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please read the 14th amendment slowly and carefully. All persons have the right to due process of the law
The law, in this case, is immigration law. Due process IAW immigration law is being afforded. That's why the guy is still here. Dept of State has broad and virtual plenary control over immigration status.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12728 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:31 pm to
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but again this act allows the president to round up anyone of Venezuelan origin and deport them too
Did they enter OUR country illegally? You reap what you sow. Break the law, suffer the consequences.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31170 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:32 pm to
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All persons have the right to due process of the law

ummmmmmmmmm, in the WWII case, the Supremes specifically said the executive hearings officer provided the required due process under the Alien Enemies Act case
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12728 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:36 pm to
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Nobody is arguing they shouldn't have been deported.
bullshite! The district judge ORDERED AN INFLIGHT PLANE TO BE TURNED AROUND! You and your ilk have been defending this shithead judge for more than 10 pages of posts! Don't piss on my leg, and tell me it's raining. Everyone here has saw thru your shite for years. You are website infamous for being a Dem shill, defending every illogical position that YOUR party endorses, regardless of how insane it is to the average person. Sell your crazy somewhere else.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131104 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:38 pm to
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but again this act allows the president to round up anyone of Venezuelan origin and deport them too.
Not if they are here legally, and abiding immigration law.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62417 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:42 pm to
Taibbi's site has been doing good timelines on some of these recent issues. It's sort of a good re-set after all of the arguing on here.
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Until last week, “war” was the common denominator in describing the three events for which presidents invoked the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

The War of 1812, World War I, and World War II. You get the idea. No one disputed those were wars.

That’s not the case with President Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act — officially called “An Act Respecting Alien Enemies” when it passed 227 years ago.

The Trump Administration has to make the case that its war on the Tren de Aragua gang is a real war rather than a campaign like, say, the war on drugs in the 1980s.

The last time the Alien Enemies Act was put into use was after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt issued a proclamation on Dec. 7, 1941, aimed at non-citizen immigrants from Japan. Similar proclamations were issued the following day that targeted German and Italian immigrants. FDR then went a huge step further three months later with a superseding executive order to put these groups in internment camps, with people of Japanese ancestry primarily affected.

Here’s a timeline of events, disputes, and records related to the fourth invocation of the Alien Enemies Act eight decades later:

LINK
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14230 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:43 pm to
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please read the 14th amendment slowly and carefully. All persons have the right to due process of the law
so you believe expedited removal is unconstitutional?
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:44 pm
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1411 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:46 pm to
No.
The AEA allows the President to capture the people designated by the President in a specific Proclamation. The current Proclamation does not allow for capture of all Venezuelans. Have you read it? If you would read it, you should know who is subject to government action.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:52 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31147 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:06 pm to
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They can be terrible, evil people and violent criminals without being terrorists.
Either way, they need to go.
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Don't you agree?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
30291 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Not if they are here legally, and abiding immigration law.


Unless Little Marco says they’re not.
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