re: Does this align with being pro-life? Louisiana refuses summer meal assistance for kids

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I put my daughter in time out yesterday. Does that mean I don’t love her?

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Did you let her out of timeout, or did you punish her for eternity?

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I am never in favor of any laws.

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Sorry to say this—and I promise I'm not saying it for the purpose of insulting you—but anarchy is the most immature and silly political position possible, and anarchy is exactly what you just described.

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Laws don’t solve any problems

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Of course that's self-evidently false. Laws are the mechanism by which we discourage anti-social behavior that is harmful to others and also how we remove those who will not refrain from doing so from society. Without laws we wouldn't be able to do either one of those things...not unless we lived in a kingdom in which a monarchy decided all questions of crime and punishment.

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I hate abortion.

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Why, exactly?

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I hate that mothers feel like they need to get abortions.

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I hate that women who make poor choices end up feeling upset and stressed about their poor choices as well. But I hate dead babies a whole lot more. You should too.

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But no one here ever asks “How can we support mothers more so they won’t feel that abortion is the only answer to an unplanned pregnancy?”

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Just because that isn't a hot topic on this board, that doesn't mean people here don't volunteer time and/or donate money to causes that do just that. You're conversing with someone right now who does.

But a bigger point is that even if no one did, that still doesn't justify it being legal to kill unborn children.

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Hate for everyone except the fetus that none of you will ever have anything to do with.

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You know why? because that's the only human being who is going to end up DEAD as a result of this whole thing, and it's also the human being who made zero decisions regarding the whole thing and is the only completely innocent human being in the equation.

You think it's a mistake to prioritize that party? Tell me why.

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And heaven forbid you be asked to provide a meal for someone else’s child!

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Again, you have no idea how many meals I have provided for other people, children and adults. And clothes, and shoes, and funeral expenses, and rent, and other things they needed. And I didn't know most of those people either.

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God can love someone and punish them at the same time.

Humans choose to go to hell.

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This.

And it's not a difficult concept. God doesn't punish anyone because He hates them. He does so reluctantly and wishes they would choose differently. He sent his only Son so that people COULD choose differently.

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And you are encouraging more government programs. How does that "solve a problem" when you are admitting government is the problem?

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How am I encouraging more government programs? I'm encouraging regular people to be charitable.

Pointing out the hypocrisy of being pro-birth and anti-feeding kids is not encouraging more government programs.

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Someone else's child is NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.

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Unless they try to abort that child. Then you are invested in forcing the birth. After birth - you're on your own, little newborn baby!

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And so you are telling me the mom or dad can't get off there arse to work at McDonald's and bring food home go to aldi

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Oh, you think someone can support a family by working at McDonald's?

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I hate abortion. I hate that mothers feel like they need to get abortions.

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Yet you actively work to keep in place systems that perpetuate poverty.

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How am I encouraging more government programs? I'm encouraging regular people to be charitable.

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Government programs is not charity under any definition. Charity if the free giving of one's time/effort/resources to help another. Government taxation to pay for a redundant program is not charity.

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Pointing out the hypocrisy of being pro-birth and anti-feeding kids is not encouraging more government programs.

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Who is "anti-feeding" kids. I stated several times now and you haven't addressed it, not paying for a redundant program is not "not-feeding kids".

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Unless they try to abort that child.

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Yes. The same way any potential murder is everyone's problem. It is a 100% moral and soul saving proposition, to demand the end of child murder.

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Then you are invested in forcing the birth. After birth - you're on your own, little newborn baby!

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What do i have to do with some other parent providing for their own children?

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Dirk Dawgler

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Well done on the screen name, sir.

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Laws are the mechanism by which we discourage anti-social behavior that is harmful to others and also how we remove those who will not refrain from doing so from society.

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If laws discouraged anti-social behavior, why has anti-social behavior increased exponentially?

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I hate that women who make poor choices end up feeling upset and stressed about their poor choices as well. But I hate dead babies a whole lot more. You should too.

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You hate women for getting pregnant in a society that doesn't value family.

Why do you make no mention of the men who impregnate these women? Women are villainized while men get a free pass.

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Just because that isn't a hot topic on this board,

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It should be. If the men here can look at women in contempt for seeking abortions, then they can discuss why they don't value women or live children.

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You think it's a mistake to prioritize that party? Tell me why.

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My whole argument is that the babies MUST be a priority for ALL of society, even once they are born.

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Then you are invested in forcing the birth.

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Nope.

No one here is trying to force any woman to have sex against her will.

However, if she DOES choose to have sexual intercourse, knowing full well that the consequences of that action may result in the creation of a human being, even if contraceptives are used, then she then becomes responsible for a bare minimum level of behavior to take care of that human being.

The law requires her to do so after the child is born. yet you don't come on here moaning about laws that "force" mothers to feed and care for born babies.

Why is not killing them considered beyond the pale of what the state should require of them while they are in utero?

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After birth - you're on your own, little newborn baby!

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Again, that's overwhelmingly not true of the Pro-Life crowd and I suspect you know that.

But also again, even if it were true, so what?

No one here made the choice to create the human beings in question. Although those of us who follow Christ are commanded by Him to participate in helping those in need out, that has nothing to do with it being appropriate for the state to codify laws preventing women from killing their children. That's the whole, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" thing.

How willing someone is to take care of a human being that is rightly someone else's responsibility is not a justification for the state allowing that human being's killing.