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re: Does it seem strange the US government can openly commit murder?

Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16593 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Why is Putin a problem? We have no beef with him or Russia.


Oh yes we do.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41011 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:36 pm to
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You mean the guy fighting against our troops in military operations?

If by fighting, you mean giving YouTube lectures. This is the same kind of argument these totalitarian leftists will make to justify killing Trump supporters. And what about Al-Awlaki's 16 year old son, who was also killed in a separate drone strike? I'm sure our resident "above-the-fray" moderates have no problem executing people if the government they worship tells them to, but that's a no-go for me.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6133 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:40 pm to
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Nobody said anything about it being an open assassination.

So you think the American government should just be able to freely kill anyone on the planet they don't agree with?
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:44 pm to
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Oh yes we do.

Why?
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:46 pm to
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If by fighting, you mean giving YouTube lectures. This is the same kind of argument these totalitarian leftists will make to justify killing Trump supporters. And what about Al-Awlaki's 16 year old son, who was also killed in a separate drone strike? I'm sure our resident "above-the-fray" moderates have no problem executing people if the government they worship tells them to, but that's a no-go for me.

Did they travel to a war zone to provide aid and comfort to our enemies?
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:47 pm to
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The government can openly kill its own citizens and it’s celebrated via the death penalty. That really blows my mind.

Dang that's rich coming from an abortionist.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:47 pm to
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So you think the American government should just be able to freely kill anyone on the planet they don't agree with?

Being a superpower does have some perks.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:51 pm to
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That's part of the development. For it to be viable they would have to be able to do it without it being able to be traced to us. Nobody said anything about it being an open assassination.

Why would you want the one man who just may prevent the NWO killed?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:52 pm to
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Dang that's rich coming from an abortionist.


Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2933 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 10:34 pm to
Of corse they can . Clinton’s have been doing it and Obama just killed his gay lover . Democrats get away with EVERYTHING!!!
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17428 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:07 am to
Deep down, everyone in this thread doesn’t give a flying frick about those people over there. Funny that many of y’all suddenly do.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170716 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:16 am to
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Why?


You might not think that we have beef with Putin and/or Russia but the people running things are operating as if we do and that's all that really matters because that's reality.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141559 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:25 am to
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Obama targeted an American citizen in Yemen for assassination (no judge, no jury, no appeal) - Anwar al-Awlaki


I understand the rule of law and all, but I am ok with that one.

In this instance, I can live with the hypocrisy.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5081 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:28 am to
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wackatimesthree


This guy…freaking idiot.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:53 am to
If your argument is a defense of Al Awaki, you lost the argument. I’m all for limited government and strong civil liberties but once you join an international terrorist organization intent on killing Americans all bets are off.
Posted by OutThatMelph
Member since Oct 2023
79 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 1:05 am to
Rinky dinky dinky do whop
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6133 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 1:57 am to
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Deep down, everyone in this thread doesn’t give a flying frick about those people over there

I don't. But it did strike me as weird that the president can just point in the vague direction of some terrorists and they shoot a missile from a drone, and sometimes that missile kills innocent people and everyone just says yep that's life.

I mean Iran shot down a civilian plane with missiles from a SAM site. 100+ people murdered. Someone gave that order and someone pulled that trigger but no atual consequences.
Posted by OutThatMelph
Member since Oct 2023
79 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 2:07 am to
There's a song about it. That's what it is. When you need to shoot one down, or need to act when one is. It's a whole lot easier to not have a complete narcissist, straight out of the golden shower. You know, like who to talk to. Hey um Fance and Fuji sorry your citizens just went up in a ball of flame but here is a joint call with Putin and Trump. (you know Putin goes first)
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 2:31 am
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70181 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 2:53 am to
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The government can openly kill its own citizens and it’s celebrated via the death penalty. That really blows my mind.


The overturning of roe put that back to the states (and therefore the people), not the federal govt.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 3:09 am to
Putin and Hamas are express the interests of their respective states and people.

We just don’t like what that is.
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