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re: Does designation as a Foreign Terrorist Organization by itself authorize lethal force?

Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20604 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:16 pm to
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Son,
I'm 77. Still think I'm your "Son".

That isn't another way to put me down or make me feel little.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10319 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:16 pm to
No one cares about your legal gymnastics. People are done with it, the court systems in this country does not get the benefit of the doubt anymore. Maybe if the courts didn’t make a complete mockery of the law for the past few generations, Trump and Hegseth wouldn’t have to resort to blowing these drug smugglers up into shark feed.

People just want to see action and justice, no one cares about your exhausting AI generated legal BS.

The other side certainly doesn’t nerd out on the legal nuance if it’s something not in their favor. They freak out and riot for weeks until they get their way. And neither should we.

The missiles shall continue until they stop sending the drug boats. They will get the message.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:17 pm to
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I'm 77. Still think I'm your "Son".

I can only go by what I read.

I would hope at 77 you would understand when youre being spoon fed terrible information. We're not fighting "terrorists."
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
37697 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:18 pm to
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I've given you plenty to think about in this thread.

You have regurgitated leftist propaganda. I've seen it before.

Nothing of use.
This is the standard answer on this board when you have no answer for what I've posted. Anything you disagree with or don't understand you simply label it "leftist propaganda." That's sad and lazy.
Furthermore, nothing I've posted can be found in any "leftist" media. But feel free to prove me wrong. And please, feel free to discuss anything I've posted. I'd love to actually have a serious political discussion here on this board.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:19 pm to
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No one cares about your legal gymnastics. People are done with it,


But youre not tired of being lied to by your own government.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20604 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:21 pm to
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I'd love for you to post actual objective fact.
The Potus has made a decision based on the facts he has before him.

You and I aren't privy to these facts.

That is my actual objective fact.

I'm going with him over you just as I have with ever Potus before him .
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2023
1967 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:27 pm to
Didn’t Obama drone strike an American citizen in a foreign country because he was considered a domestic terrorist providing aid to the enemy? Wasn’t his son also killed?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Potus has made a decision based on the facts he has before him.


It
Is
No
Drugs.

If it were, Columbia, Mexico or china would be the targets.

This is your run.of the mill
Deep state regime change.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8241 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Didn’t Obama drone strike an American citizen in a foreign country because he was considered a domestic terrorist providing aid to the enemy? Wasn’t his son also killed?


Yup, although I think they claimed some legal authority for the father. For the son, however, they didn't even try to justify that. [They were killed in separate drone strikes.]

There should have been jail time for that.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8241 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:35 pm to
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No one cares about your legal gymnastics.


The President does. That’s why he disavowed the double tap. If that happened, members of the military are going to jail unless Trump pardons them.

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21887 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

IvoryBillMatt
you should really think about taking a speedboat fishing trip to Trinidad
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56707 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:45 pm to
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The President does. That’s why he disavowed the double tap. If that happened, members of the military are going to jail unless Trump pardons them.


What was the President’s exact quote?
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12641 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:55 pm to
Maybe drug running is a cover for the attacks on the boats.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 2:56 pm to
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you should really think about taking a speedboat fishing trip to Trinidad


They arent coming here, its irrelevant to "America First."

its globalism.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20604 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

This is the standard answer on this board when you have no answer for what I've posted.
And this is the standard answer from your side.
quote:

Anything you disagree with or don't understand you simply label it
MAGA propaganda.

You are guilty of same.
quote:

I'd love to actually have a serious political discussion here on this board.
You mean like someone that totally agrees with the leftist propaganda you post.

There is a lot of so called, information, out there on both sides. I can present reports of what is actually happening. I can find reports that call the other into question.

I can provide one side and someone will argue and label my info as propaganda.

In the end neither will ever "have a serious political discussion".
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31681 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:11 pm to
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Conclusion

No—designating an organization as an FTO does not legally justify killing all its members.
Lethal force requires:

1. A separate legal authorization (AUMF or Article II self-defense), and


2. Compliance with international humanitarian law, which requires distinction between combatants and non-combatants."


So none of the boat strikes are lawful then.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20604 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:15 pm to
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which requires distinction between combatants and non-combatants.
Well THIS one is broken by every country.

Anybody in the boat is recognized as a combatant.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20604 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:18 pm to
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So none of the boat strikes are lawful then.
We can go back to sooo many people that we wiped out that wasn't lawful.

Every living president in the USA would be in prison.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295801 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:19 pm to
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In the end neither will ever "have a serious political discussion".


When MAGA was virulently anti war 6 months ago, its really hard to take the new found love for saber rattling seriously.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31681 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Anybody in the boat is recognized as a combatant.


We aren’t in an actual armed conflict with anyone we’re striking.
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