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re: Does anyone understand why having the National Guard helping defeat crime is a bad thing?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:27 am to Sull
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:27 am to Sull
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20
How about "bad is good."
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:29 am to HeadCall
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What if governors refused to cooperate with other federal laws like desegregated schools?
Yeah. That's the entire idea.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:30 am to AuburnTigers
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And at what point is it OK to actually call in the national guard?
When the governor of a particular state calls them up.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:31 am to HeadCall
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I applaud Trump’s attention to the problem but not his approach to fixing it.
Respectfully,
how is Trump supposed to fix the lack of black fathers at home?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:32 am to wackatimesthree
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how is Trump supposed to fix the lack of black fathers at home?
Put an end to entitlements and welfare for single mothers.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:34 am to Lsupimp
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I attend Catholic mass faithfully every Sunday now. The same chapel that I went to CCD and mass with my mother as a child. Even I , who makes a mess of everything, and struggles to learn lessons, receives His grace.
Good to hear, and you’re not alone in that
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:NO cash bail is just more liberal bullshite that allows criminals to be back on the streets to commit more crimes. frick them...let them stay in jail
hypocrites on that for MAGA
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:40 am to Gorilla Ball
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I just don’t get it?
It's about power. Trump has it, they don't!
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:42 am to HeadCall
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Put an end to entitlements and welfare for single mothers.
Theoretically, in a Libertarian wonderland that would be great, but it's not feasible as a complete solution.
First of all, I agree that we have room for a whole lot of welfare reform and that might help with this particular problem to a degree. But it would also cause other problems.
Jordan Peterson has a famous video out there in which he went through the estimated number of Americans whose IQ is so low that it's not feasible to expect that anyone will employ them. I don't remember exactly what the estimate was, but it was tens of millions of people.
I'm not hiring them, nor would you. So...? You would have to come up with some plan for that or else those people simply become criminals in order to survive, which defeats the purpose.
Secondly, I agree that removing the financial incentive for single motherhood would help to some degree, but the entire culture has shifted in the direction of single motherhood, not just women who get paid to be brood mares. So that wouldn't make it go away. It might cut down on it, but Shekendracia is still going to grind it out with randos 4 nights a week because that's the cultural trend.
Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything. But it gets complicated and unless/until someone comes up with a top-down way of changing culture, it's at best a partial solution.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:06 am to Lsupimp
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The Democratic Party most certainly benefits from urban chaos. Every single social pathology that thrives in the hood is to their benefit and ensures their control.
And, as has been shown to you, these have gone down greatly since the 90s.
Has Democratic control over the cities followed?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:09 am to ShoeBang
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So far the cost is way less than the damage ignoring the nuclear family has done.
What will federalizing and deploying the National Guard do to help the nuclear families, exactly?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:09 am to Gorilla Ball
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What are you talking about?
I’m not a Biden supporter
Geez
Subtlety doesn't come across well with short messages on a forum.
I would never accuse you of being one - I'm certain you are as MAGA as I am.
Just stating this wouldn't be a point of contention if a Democrat did it, because Democratic Mayor's (Washington, Chicago, LA) are only going to support the party line, or be exiled forever (NY).
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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What will federalizing and deploying the National Guard do to help the nuclear families, exactly?
I never said it would.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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If this is true, why have they been committing political suicide for 30 years?
Why haven't Republican mayors and governments taken over the past 30 years as crime evaporated?
Do you see?
This post is prime example of why you are either trolling or you are a dumbass and most likely both.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:14 am to riverdiver
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No. The admin isn’t trying to attack states’ rights.
DC apparently was fudging statistics to make it appear crime was falling, when it wasn’t.
I'm not talking about the DC-specific policies.
I'm talking about the EO from yesterday specifically attacking states' rights and federalizing bail
There was an EO yesterday that was DC-specific and one that was national specifically targeting states and localities.
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Chicago has a massive crime/shooting issue. The Mayor and Governor insist there isn’t an issue, the residents say otherwise. There were 30 shootings in Chicago this past weekend, a five year old was killed.
Murder is going down in Chicago
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Johnson has touted "significant reductions" in crime and violence over the past two years. According to the most recent year-to-date statistics, homicides dropped 31%, while shootings were down 37.4%. Total violent crime, meanwhile, declined 21.6% over the past year.
And how were things in 2024?
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In an article posted on the White House website entitled "Yes, Chicago Has a Crime Problem — Just Ask its Residents," the authors referenced data that revealed Chicago ended 2024 with 573 murders, the highest of any U.S. city.
While the number is accurate, there was no mention that Chicago saw its lowest number of homicides since 2019
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:16 am to ShoeBang
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I never said it would.
So why bring it up in this particular discussion?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:16 am to wallowinit
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This post is prime example of why you are either trolling or you are a dumbass and most likely both.
Me destroying his point, you mean?
He made a bad point. I showed why it was bad.
People who lack comprehension claim I'm wrong.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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So why bring it up in this particular discussion?
because the destruction of the nuclear family is the main cause of the crime in urban inner cities in the USA in my (and most others') opinion.
The National Guard has to step in to sort it out because these people were never taught right from wrong or self respect or honor or duty to community or common sense or shame or any number of other values that would prevent crime from becoming this rampant and accepted in these areas.
So, now daddy (the Nat Guard) is stepping in to put them in time out (jail). It isn't a cure but the bleeding needs to stop since it is obviously affecting the everyday workings of the city, and the local administration was apparently unwilling to take the steps to do it themselves. I may not completely agree with the plan, but it is better than doing nothing at the moment imo. I hope it doesn't backfire but I am glad someone is trying something to help the situation.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:23 am to ShoeBang
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because the destruction of the nuclear family is the main cause of the crime in urban inner cities in the USA in my (and most others') opinion.
Sure.
This is a discussion about the national guard defeating crime, though, and you admitted they had nothing to do with the nuclear family.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:24 am to Gorilla Ball
quote:You might get it when the next woke administration takes office and deploys the National Guard to enforce policies allowing boys to sodomize girls in the girls' bathroom. Outside of DC (which is legally a little different), it's a bad precedent.
Does anyone understand why having the National Guard helping defeat crime is a bad thing?
I just don’t get it?
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